From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/6830 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: various nnml questions, many about cross-posted mail messages Date: 20 Jun 1996 10:32:22 +0200 Sender: larsi@ifi.uio.no Message-ID: References: <199606072316.TAA19343@csb.bu.edu> <199606100339.XAA14837@csb.bu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035147231 4891 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:53:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA23105 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:18:19 -0700 Original-Received: from ylfing.ifi.uio.no (4867@ylfing.ifi.uio.no [129.240.94.25]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:50:02 +0200 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by ylfing.ifi.uio.no ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:50:01 +0200 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: jbw@cs.bu.edu's message of Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:39:21 -0400 Original-Lines: 45 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.23/Emacs 19.29 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6830 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6830 jbw@cs.bu.edu (Joe Wells) writes: > I also believe that a newsreader, to the greatest extent practically > possible, should treat a message cross posted to several groups as a > single entity. When I receive a message that gets put in groups A, B, and > C, I do not want it to make a difference in which group I deal with the > message first. If, while in group B, I read the message, tick it, and > reply to it, I expect it to be annotated with "!A". If a week later I am > viewing the same message in group C, I want to see the same annotation > there too. I don't agree. I feel that the Xref header should be used for one thing and one thing only -- it should ensure that a reader never has to read a crossposted article more than once. That's all. > First, I disagree about the usefulness of Xref. Second, the lack of mark > propagation in Gnus prevents achieving the goal of not reading articles > more than once. Suppose, while in group A, I read an article which was > cross posted to group B and then I tick the article. Then I go to group > B. I will see the same article and it will be unmarked (not marked as > read). Unless I am very careful, I will end up reading it again. No, if you tick the article in group A it will be marked as read in group B. So you'll never see it in group B. > > 4. Question: How do people keep track of whether they have edited a > > message or forwarded it? > > They have rilly good memories? > > I asked this question because this is one of the features of VM which I > like quite a bit. Well, I could add new secondary marks for forwarding and editing, but is it really something we need? Well, perhaps it would be nice. I've added it to the Red Gnus todo list. (Along with World Peace, Happiness For Everybody, and Free Word For XEmacs. :-) (We need more smileys. We should really have O:-) and :-=, for instance. Anybody feel up to going through that mam(m)ooth list of smileys and drawing them all? :-) Shouldn't be much work. :-O.) -- "Yes. The journey through the human heart would have to wait until some other time."