* Feature bleah
@ 1996-09-23 20:10 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-09-23 20:37 ` Scott Blachowicz
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-09-23 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
As some of you may have noticed, there hasn't been anything much new
in the last couple of weeks. The problem is that, *gasp*, I've gotten
one of those dreaded writers, uhm, programmer's blocks. I just don't
seem to be able to write a single line of lisp without my mind
starting to drift off into strange places.
Anyways. This might be a good opportunity to declare a feature freeze
and aim for releasing Red Gnus 5.4 Novemberish. After that, it's a
fruity Gnus, I guess. If I can get that inspiration back. *sob*
*whine*
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-23 20:10 Feature bleah Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1996-09-23 20:37 ` Scott Blachowicz
1996-09-24 6:20 ` Andy Eskilsson
1996-09-23 21:21 ` William Perry
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Scott Blachowicz @ 1996-09-23 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
> fruity Gnus...*whine*
Oooo, speaking of wine...how about Grape Gnus? (or Great News or ...)? :-)?
Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div)
1700 Westlake Ave N #500
scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109
Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-23 20:10 Feature bleah Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-09-23 20:37 ` Scott Blachowicz
@ 1996-09-23 21:21 ` William Perry
1996-09-23 23:12 ` Steven L Baur
1996-09-24 11:52 ` Wesley.Hardaker
3 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: William Perry @ 1996-09-23 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:
>As some of you may have noticed, there hasn't been anything much new in
>the last couple of weeks. The problem is that, *gasp*, I've gotten one of
>those dreaded writers, uhm, programmer's blocks. I just don't seem to be
>able to write a single line of lisp without my mind starting to drift off
>into strange places.
>
>Anyways. This might be a good opportunity to declare a feature freeze and
>aim for releasing Red Gnus 5.4 Novemberish. After that, it's a fruity
>Gnus, I guess. If I can get that inspiration back. *sob* *whine*
you just need some very large end-users to pay you a visit and remind you
how much you just _LOVE_ to lose sleep over adding features. :) Sort of
like the roaming 'I Love Microsoft' squad roaming the eastside of seattle
on alternating tuesdays.
-Bill P.
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-23 20:10 Feature bleah Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-09-23 20:37 ` Scott Blachowicz
1996-09-23 21:21 ` William Perry
@ 1996-09-23 23:12 ` Steven L Baur
1996-09-24 1:01 ` Mark Eichin
1996-09-24 2:34 ` William Perry
1996-09-24 11:52 ` Wesley.Hardaker
3 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-09-23 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
Lars> Anyways. This might be a good opportunity to declare a feature
Lars> freeze and aim for releasing Red Gnus 5.4 Novemberish. After
Lars> that, it's a fruity Gnus, I guess. If I can get that
Lars> inspiration back. *sob* *whine*
Shoot. I'd like to see Gnus able to talk SMTP directly, so that it
does not need to fork a local sendmail. After all if Netscape can do
it, Gnus should be doing it better.
I don't think this is much code to write. Any possibility for this
feature in Red Gnus?
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What are the last two letters of "doesn't" and "can't"?
Coincidence? I think not.
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-23 23:12 ` Steven L Baur
@ 1996-09-24 1:01 ` Mark Eichin
1996-09-24 2:34 ` William Perry
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From: Mark Eichin @ 1996-09-24 1:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
> I don't think this is much code to write. Any possibility for this
In fact, I've got a smtpsend.el that Bill Sommerfeld wrote, if you
want to start from that I'll ask his permission to forward it (or you
can find others I'm sure...)
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-23 23:12 ` Steven L Baur
1996-09-24 1:01 ` Mark Eichin
@ 1996-09-24 2:34 ` William Perry
1996-09-24 15:15 ` Steven L Baur
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From: William Perry @ 1996-09-24 2:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Steven L. Baur writes:
>>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>
>Lars> Anyways. This might be a good opportunity to declare a feature
>Lars> freeze and aim for releasing Red Gnus 5.4 Novemberish. After
>Lars> that, it's a fruity Gnus, I guess. If I can get that
>Lars> inspiration back. *sob* *whine*
>
>Shoot. I'd like to see Gnus able to talk SMTP directly, so that it
>does not need to fork a local sendmail. After all if Netscape can do
>it, Gnus should be doing it better.
>
>I don't think this is much code to write. Any possibility for this
>feature in Red Gnus?
This is in Emacs 19.34 - I use it all the time at work, since I am behind
a SOCKS firewall, and sendmail doesn't grok it. Check this out:
(setq
send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
smtpmail-default-smtp-server "newman"
smtpmail-local-domain "aventail.com")
(require 'smtpmail)
Voila! Works great for me (using the elisp SOCKS client I wrote a while
back :) This is definitely something we need to synch up with Emacs 19.34
for the 19.15 release of XEmacs.
-Bill P.
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-23 20:37 ` Scott Blachowicz
@ 1996-09-24 6:20 ` Andy Eskilsson
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From: Andy Eskilsson @ 1996-09-24 6:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, ding
/ Scott Blachowicz <scott@statsci.com> wrote:
|
| Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
|
| > fruity Gnus...*whine*
|
| Oooo, speaking of wine...how about Grape Gnus? (or Great News or ...)? :-)?
Great News sounds great for the name of a release I think, sort of
maybe a FAQ (what does Gnus stand for, Great News :-)!
/Andy
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-23 20:10 Feature bleah Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
1996-09-23 23:12 ` Steven L Baur
@ 1996-09-24 11:52 ` Wesley.Hardaker
1996-09-24 18:15 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-09-24 21:37 ` Mark Eichin
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From: Wesley.Hardaker @ 1996-09-24 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> As some of you may have noticed, there hasn't been anything much new
> in the last couple of weeks. The problem is that, *gasp*, I've gotten
> one of those dreaded writers, uhm, programmer's blocks. I just don't
> seem to be able to write a single line of lisp without my mind
> starting to drift off into strange places.
Happens to all of us. Thats usually when I switch projects and
abandon the one I'm working on till it bugs to no end to return to it
because it doesn't do something I want. I don't suggest this sort of
behaviour, of course...
Anyway, as long as people are suggesting new features for the TODO
list (unrelated to the topic really), I thought I'd throw in my two
cents:
- It would be nice to be able to quickly reduce a subject or author
permanently in a global score file. The problem with the 'I' and
'L' concepts is that they are local to a particular newsgroup.
When I run across the 'cash fast now' type posts I want to bomb
the guy from hell in my score files but in all my groups. A quick
'L S' or 'L A' doesn't work, as it only blocks the current group.
It would be cool if it was possible to redirect the score to a
(the) global score file instead? It would probably require an
extra question at the end of the regular 4 key sequence (last
being temp/perm) for something like 'local/global' etc...
Maybe this is already possible and I'm an idiot? Certainly wouldn't
be the first time...
Wes
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-24 2:34 ` William Perry
@ 1996-09-24 15:15 ` Steven L Baur
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-09-24 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "William" == William Perry <wmperry@aventail.com> writes:
[smtpmail.el]
William> This is in Emacs 19.34 - I use it all the time at work,
William> since I am behind a SOCKS firewall, and sendmail doesn't grok
William> it. Check this out:
William> ... This is definitely something we need to synch up with
William> Emacs 19.34 for the 19.15 release of XEmacs.
I see it. [Checking against XEmacs beta ...] It requires
mailalias.el, and a new function from sendmail.el. I'll post working
versions to somewhere appropriate when I get them.
Cool.
--
steve@miranova.com baur
Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be billed at $250/message.
What are the last two letters of "doesn't" and "can't"?
Coincidence? I think not.
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-24 11:52 ` Wesley.Hardaker
@ 1996-09-24 18:15 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-09-24 21:37 ` Mark Eichin
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-09-24 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
Wesley.Hardaker@sphys.unil.ch writes:
> - It would be nice to be able to quickly reduce a subject or author
> permanently in a global score file. The problem with the 'I' and
> 'L' concepts is that they are local to a particular newsgroup.
> When I run across the 'cash fast now' type posts I want to bomb
> the guy from hell in my score files but in all my groups. A quick
> 'L S' or 'L A' doesn't work, as it only blocks the current group.
> It would be cool if it was possible to redirect the score to a
> (the) global score file instead? It would probably require an
> extra question at the end of the regular 4 key sequence (last
> being temp/perm) for something like 'local/global' etc...
You can change the score file with `V c' before entering scores. You
can also use the new home score file thingie to get more control over
where new score entries are to go...
--
"Yes. The journey through the human heart
would have to wait until some other time."
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-24 11:52 ` Wesley.Hardaker
1996-09-24 18:15 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1996-09-24 21:37 ` Mark Eichin
1996-09-25 19:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Mark Eichin @ 1996-09-24 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
for a good mnemonic, how about using $ as a prefix -- it would be the
same as L but global, so
1000 $ a f p user@site
and then
500 $ a f p @site
would be pretty convenient. (THe problem with V c is that if I see
lists, I'm debugging, not using the UI :-)
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-24 21:37 ` Mark Eichin
@ 1996-09-25 19:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-09-26 6:17 ` Global score file ?Donde? Steinar Bang
1996-09-26 11:00 ` Feature bleah Wesley.Hardaker
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-09-25 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com> writes:
> for a good mnemonic, how about using $ as a prefix -- it would be the
> same as L but global, so
> 1000 $ a f p user@site
> and then
> 500 $ a f p @site
But what is the "global" score file? It can be any number of things,
although most people use "all.SCORE". (Well, "global" in the
non-Gnusey sense.)
> would be pretty convenient. (THe problem with V c is that if I see
> lists, I'm debugging, not using the UI :-)
`V c' just prompts for a new current score file.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen
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* Global score file ?Donde?
1996-09-25 19:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1996-09-26 6:17 ` Steinar Bang
1996-09-26 11:00 ` Feature bleah Wesley.Hardaker
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 1996-09-26 6:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no>:
> But what is the "global" score file? It can be any number of
> things, although most people use "all.SCORE".
For me it's always been ~/News/SCORE, but I've *no* idea why (it's not
set to that anywhere in my ~/.emacs or in the site-start.el file).
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* Re: Feature bleah
1996-09-25 19:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-09-26 6:17 ` Global score file ?Donde? Steinar Bang
@ 1996-09-26 11:00 ` Wesley.Hardaker
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Wesley.Hardaker @ 1996-09-26 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> But what is the "global" score file? It can be any number of things,
> although most people use "all.SCORE". (Well, "global" in the
> non-Gnusey sense.)
Well, all.SCORE would of course be fine... The point is to make it
easy I think. I'll probably go write a routine to do the equivelent
of a 'V c', then run through the 'L' stuff, and then finally a 'V c'
back to the original again and maybe even bind it to '$'...
Wes
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