From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17632 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wes Hardaker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Offline and IMAP Date: 07 Oct 1998 11:46:25 -700 Organization: U.C.Davis, Information Technology - D.C.A.S. Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <6f4str9vxm.fsf@dna.lth.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156298 1934 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:24:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01170 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAF02726; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:18:33 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:47:24 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12300 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:47:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from des.castles.com (hardaker@des.castles.com [208.214.166.35]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01125 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from hardaker@localhost) by des.castles.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA26171; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:46:27 -0700 Original-To: Jochen_Hayek@ACM.org X-Face: #qW^}a%m*T^{A:Cp}$R\"38+d}41-Z}uU8,r%F#c#s:~Nzp0G9](s?,K49KJ]s"*7gvRgA SrAvQc4@/}L7Qc=w{)]ACO\R{LF@S{pXfojjjGg6c;q6{~C}CxC^^&~(F]`1W)%9j/iS/ IM",B1M.?{w8ckLTYD'`|kTr\i\cgY)P4 X-url: http://dcas.ucdavis.edu/~hardaker In-Reply-To: Jochen_Hayek@ACM.org's message of "Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:58:36 GMT" Original-Lines: 64 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070033 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.33) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17632 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17632 >>>>> On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:58:36 GMT, Jochen_Hayek@ACM.org said: >>>>> "WH" == Wes Hardaker writes: JH> I don't want to seduce you to use something else than emacs/gnus, JH> but your view on IMAP might be different, he he... JH> if you use Netscape Collabra or MS Outlook just a single time, to JH> operate on *any* IMAP server. JH> Not *in* but *under*, exactly speaking the IMAP RFC deals with JH> even *hierarchical* folders. so basically e.g. in Netscape JH> Collabra, you (can) specify a subdirectory (e.g. iMail (note the JH> difference!!!)), that carries your mail folders. Right.... I think the *default* value if not specified by the client should be a sub directory which is reasonable. Yes, I can force gnus/imap to look in one place as well, you are right. JH> In the case of the UWASH thing, all folders besides from the INBOX JH> are (as you found) under your home directory, resp. in a subdir thereof. Right... And it opens everything in existence looking for mail. Ick. WH> That's the impression I got by trying to run it WH> once and finally hitting C-g 10 minutes later. JH> That's just nnimap -- for whatever reason ... Yes and no. I had *no* mail in an IMAP folder yet. It was because the imap server defaulted to looking in my home directory for mail folders, and it probably found some tar files, etc..., instead. Opening nnimap for a newly created user with no home directory was very fast. (and nnimap is definitely slow, you're right. Thats on purpose, from what I understand, for development purposes). JH> Other tools access remote IMAP folder much faster. Of course. elisp is not exactly an ideal programming language for speed ;-) WH> Actually, I want procmail to deliver mail into my imap folders, WH> but I think this is a pipe-dream at this point... sigh... JH> That's exactly where I also started -- but only `wishwise'. I have it working now actually... (not that I read my mail using IMAP yet...) JH> Oh, my utility sends the user's password unencrypted, JH> because it's too hard to do Kerberos under `python circumstances'. I haven't gotten nnimap to do kerberos yet either... It's supposed to work with "itest", but I haven't found (or looked for) it yet. -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them."