From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/24982 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wes Hardaker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mail archival idea/feature request Date: 01 Sep 1999 09:53:43 -0700 Organization: U.C.Davis, Information Technology - D.C.A.S. Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035162452 11650 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:07:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13942 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAB23053; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:54:34 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:54:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17619 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from homestyle.dcn.davis.ca.us (hardaker@homestyle.dcn.davis.ca.us [168.150.190.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13886 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from hardaker@localhost) by homestyle.dcn.davis.ca.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01762; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:53:45 -0700 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-URL: http://dcas.ucdavis.edu/~hardaker X-Face: #qW^}a%m*T^{A:Cp}$R\"38+d}41-Z}uU8,r%F#c#s:~Nzp0G9](s?,K49KJ]s"*7gvRgA SrAvQc4@/}L7Qc=w{)]ACO\R{LF@S{pXfojjjGg6c;q6{~C}CxC^^&~(F]`1W)%9j/iS/ IM",B1M.?{w8ckLTYD'`|kTr\i\cgY)P4 In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "27 Aug 1999 19:39:46 +0200" Original-Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/21.2(beta8) (Artemis) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24982 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24982 >>>>> On 27 Aug 1999 19:39:46 +0200, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Or -- the old, expirable articles are deleted, and the old, Lars> non-expirable articles are moved to the archive group. Hee hee. That'd work too (though in some cases I want to pick when things move to the archive group (and I want to archive everything) and when they stick around as old (hence, E). It comes from disk space being so cheap and most mail messages being so small... Why not just archive my entire life. Quick calculations; Random sample of my old nnml inbox (now using nnimap): % ls -l | wc -l 325 % ls -l | awk '{total = total + $5} END { print (total/325); }' 17278 Ok, so each message is on average 17k. (most are much much smaller, and a threshold on the max size archived would be even better). I get about 300 messages a day at last count. Ok, lets count yesterday just to be sure: % grep "Aug 30" MAIL_LOG | grep '^From' | wc -l 287 Yep, still roughly accurate. So, how much space for a years worth of messages? (* 17 300 365) = 1.8gig. So, I'd gladly waste a 1.8 gig disk to archive my entire years worth of mail providing I didn't have to store it in the current folder where it would eat away my summary buffer creation speed. However, I would not of course archive my entire set of mail lists. Mostly important groups like inbox, work, etc, which would reduce the size of the above as well. So, uh, got it written yet? -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them."