Happy Anniversary!

Happy Anniversary!

[Jason R Mastaler]

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Wow, three action packed years.

Sun Dec 11 06:32:40 1994  Lars Ingebrigtsen  <lars@eyesore.no>
 
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Thanks for all the fun Lars!


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Re: Happy Anniversary!

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Jason R Mastaler <jason@mastaler.com> writes:

> Wow, three action packed years.
> 
> Sun Dec 11 06:32:40 1994  Lars Ingebrigtsen  <lars@eyesore.no>
> 
>         * gnus.el: The very first (ding) Gnus pre-release. 
> 
> Thanks for all the fun Lars!

Wow!  I had completely forgotten the anniversary.

Thanks!

(Apropos of absolutely nothing -- I've just written ~3500 lines of Tcl
code.  And I enjoyed it!  Someone please shoot me before I start
writing, uh, Java or something.  Or C++!  Eek!)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Happy Anniversary!

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On 11 Dec 1997 15:31:22 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said:

Lars> (Apropos of absolutely nothing -- I've just written ~3500 lines
Lars> of Tcl code.  And I enjoyed it!  Someone please shoot me before
Lars> I start writing, uh, Java or something.  Or C++!  Eek!)

Or perl even ;-)

-- 
"Ninjas aren't dangerous.  They're more afraid of you than you are of them."

Re: Happy Anniversary!

[Gisle Aas]

Wes Hardaker <wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu> writes:

> >>>>> On 11 Dec 1997 15:31:22 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said:
> 
> Lars> (Apropos of absolutely nothing -- I've just written ~3500 lines
> Lars> of Tcl code.  And I enjoyed it!  Someone please shoot me before
> Lars> I start writing, uh, Java or something.  Or C++!  Eek!)
> 
> Or perl even ;-)

and I have already started on the Gnus rewrite in Perl.  Do you think
Lars would enjoy completing it?  I think there are only ~35000 lines
missing :-)

$ perl -MGnus::Newsrc -le 'print Gnus::Newsrc->new->alist_hash->{"nnml:gnus"}[2]{expire}'

Re: Happy Anniversary!

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On 11 Dec 1997 20:23:01 +0100, Gisle Aas <gisle@aas.no> said:

Gisle> and I have already started on the Gnus rewrite in Perl.  Do you
Gisle> think Lars would enjoy completing it?  I think there are only
Gisle> ~35000 lines missing :-)

I think we should keep *both* versions (plus Lars' new ones in Java
and Tcl), and just make sure they are in sync.

The should all read the appropriate ~/.newsrc.{eld,tcld,pld,javad},
which ever one has been modified the latest.

-- 
"Ninjas aren't dangerous.  They're more afraid of you than you are of them."

Re: Happy Anniversary!

[Bruce Stephens]

wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu said:
> I think we should keep *both* versions (plus Lars' new ones in Java
> and Tcl), and just make sure they are in sync.

> The should all read the appropriate ~/.newsrc.{eld,tcld,pld,javad},
> which ever one has been modified the latest. 

Absolutely.  That might be a bit too much work, though.  Perhaps a couple of 
languages could be dropped in favour of a version for POSIX-compliant shells?  
There are few UNIX machines without some Bourne shell, and it would be very 
useful to have a fully programmable threading newsreader available as soon as 
you have a working /bin/sh.

Re: Happy Anniversary!

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:49:14 +0000, Bruce Stephens <bruce@cenderis.demon.co.uk> said:

Bruce> There are few UNIX machines without some Bourne shell, and it
Bruce> would be very useful to have a fully programmable threading
Bruce> newsreader available as soon as you have a working /bin/sh.

True...  That and a dos .bat file set should cover just about everything!
It would take way too long to get a elisp version up and running,
having to set emacs up and all...  We should limit it to just those two.

-- 
"Ninjas aren't dangerous.  They're more afraid of you than you are of them."

Re: Happy Anniversary!

[Lars Syrstad]

Wes Hardaker <wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu> writes:

> >>>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:49:14 +0000, Bruce Stephens <bruce@cenderis.demon.co.uk> said:
> 
> Bruce> There are few UNIX machines without some Bourne shell, and it
> Bruce> would be very useful to have a fully programmable threading
> Bruce> newsreader available as soon as you have a working /bin/sh.
> 
> True...  That and a dos .bat file set should cover just about everything!
> It would take way too long to get a elisp version up and running,
> having to set emacs up and all...  We should limit it to just those two.

I think that instead of spending effort on porting Gnus itself to
those languages/environments, one should focus on writing a few
simple, generic, all-purpose tools.  Like

  elisp2tcl
  elisp2perl
  elisp2bin-sh
  elisp2msdos-batch

etc.

I believe such a tool should be written in COBOL, for the sake of
completeness.

  - Lars.
-- 
Not flogging a DOA MULE.

Re: Happy Anniversary!

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On 12 Dec 1997 12:52:21 +0100, Lars Syrstad <lars@tihlde.hist.no> said:

Lars> I believe such a tool should be written in COBOL, for the sake
Lars> of completeness.

Actually, I think we should start refering to Gnus as its own
language.  It really has become a super-set of elisp.

Gnus:  A newsreader written in the Gnus language.

(talk about the chicken and egg problem)


-- 
"Ninjas aren't dangerous.  They're more afraid of you than you are of them."