From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/10852 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jason R. Mastaler" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus date suggestion Date: 03 May 1997 00:17:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035150654 26776 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:50:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "(ding) Gnus Mailing List" , XEmacs Beta Discussion List Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA13768 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:32:40 -0700 Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 06:18:29 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 21947 invoked by uid 504); 3 May 1997 04:16:14 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 21944 invoked from network); 3 May 1997 04:16:13 -0000 Original-Received: from ashanti.vcinet.com (208.205.15.58) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 3 May 1997 04:16:13 -0000 Original-Received: (from jason@localhost) by ashanti.vcinet.com (8.8.4/8.8.5) id AAA06673; Sat, 3 May 1997 00:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard) In-Reply-To: pinard@iro.umontreal.ca's message of 01 May 1997 17:30:04 -0400 Original-Lines: 29 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.48/XEmacs 19.15 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by deanna.miranova.com id VAA13768 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10852 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10852 pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (François Pinard) writes: > The nice thing (?) is that we have so many standards to chose from. > Some are definitely more more questionable than others, and using local > American dates for international mail has always been and is still very > questionable. I seriously suggest that we switch to ISO 8601, which is > a much more sounded standard, and truly international. Take a look at: > > http://www.ft.uni-erlangen.de/~mskuhn/iso-time.html. > > For example, Gnus should ideally display dates as: > > Date: 1997-01-12 13:17:58-05:00 It still doesn't have the day of the week in it. :-) > A lot of people over the world (and even some people in United States :-) > are rather comfortable with this. Well maybe. I'm sure there are alot of people that wouldn't be comfortable with it. I don't want to debate standards. David Moore originally had a suggestion of making this customizable with a format for displaying article times. I think this should appeal TO everyone. He even offered to code it providing a consensus on how it should be done was reached. Maybe we should focus on this? -- Jason R. Mastaler jason@mastaler.com