>>>>> On 21 Jun 1999 17:36:24 -0700, Per Bothner said: Per> More generally, for mail the natural classification is old Per> messages, new messages, and deleted messages. Once I have Per> deleted a message, I normally don't want to see it. However, I Per> would like to be able to see old messages. If I do plain space Per> in the Group buffer, I only see new and ticked messages. But if Per> I do ^U-space I get *all* the messages, including the expired Per> ones. This means that to get what I consider normal behavior (as Per> in most other MUAs) I must take one of two acrtions for each new Per> message: Either tick it if I want to save it, or delete it (make Per> expireable) otherwise. Sometimes I forget. This is not very Per> friendly. If you want this now, I'll include a patch I've been using for a few years now that allows you to set the "display" group parameter to "not-expired", so that it will show you old messages. This is essentially what you want. I've always wanted to be able to make the display parameter accept a string, something like "O !", which would be translated into old, new, and ticked, or even better "-E" which would be the same as not-expired. However, the hack I put in place didn't work quickly and I didn't have time to mess with it much more. Lars didn't want to accept the not-expired patch as is. ...