From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/41689 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Possible nnmaildir bug Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 10:20:10 -0800 Organization: still searching... Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035177047 7507 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:10:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 17000 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 21:12:42 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 21:12:42 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16NKVa-0000PD-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:07:10 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:07:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA00620 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 15:06:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 14471 invoked by alias); 6 Jan 2002 18:20:13 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14466 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 18:20:12 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (HELO quimby2.netfonds.no) (195.204.10.66) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 18:20:12 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby2.netfonds.no with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16NHu5-0003Th-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:20:17 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 48 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com Original-X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1010341217 13372 66.51.210.228 (6 Jan 2002 18:20:17 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Jan 2002 18:20:17 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i386-pc-solaris2.8) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uBX5V4NeiLae1m7Bqd8BNF7/EBI= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41689 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41689 I hope this isn't a false alarm. Its a bit hard to tell if it is a problem with nnmaildir or something else. The general problem is that gnus doesn't seem to be putting the warning `Gnus-Warning: [...] Duplicate' on messages with identical message ids. Can this problem be related to nnmaildir?... It seems that it might.. General facts: I have two setups that convert news to mail, one using nnml the other using nnmaildir (both using procmail). Each on a separate machine. I'm not entirely sure if these setups are identical in all other ways. Thats a bit much to keep up with. And in this case, involving duplicate messages, gnus has a plethora of functions and variable that effect that. So many that the names and doc strings really aren't enough to tell what they all are supposed to do or if they are set the same in both instances of gnus. My best guess is that the ones that should effect whether gnus puts the `Gnus-Warning:[...]Duplicate..' are set the same. Now to the punchline: It seems only the instance using nnmaildir (todays cvs) is not putting the warning message on duplicates. The duplicates are being produced by some bunky clumsyness in my conversion scripts, as yet unresolved, and has nothing to do with gnus. I've been just removing them when they occur (seldom). And have scripting that finds them by looking for the Gnus-Warning. Thats how I noticed that warning being absent on the nnmaildir setup. More general info: The procmail process in both cases is very similar but not identical. On the nnml based setup, procmail is writing mbox files that get slurped. On the nnmaildir setup procmail is writing maildir style to news.group/new. (a builtin function in procmail). But only on the nnml based setup is the Gnus-warning being applied to duplicates. In both cases the variable is set to default (77) (C-h v shows - gnus-duplicate-mark's value is 77) I wondered if the process in nnmaildir that converts incoming messages from New to Cur may be missing this functionality.