From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/11725 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason R Mastaler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mailing list archive is available Date: 18 Jul 1997 20:51:40 -0600 Message-ID: References: <19970715191606.61128@fly.cc.fer.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035151390 32116 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:03:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA17267 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 20:46:27 -0700 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA19508 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 22:43:02 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 04:52:44 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 20719 invoked by uid 504); 19 Jul 1997 02:52:42 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 20716 invoked from network); 19 Jul 1997 02:52:42 -0000 Original-Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (207.69.200.12) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 1997 02:52:42 -0000 Original-Received: from ashanti.mastaler.com (ip56.albuquerque.nm.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.185.56]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15349 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 22:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from jason@localhost) by ashanti.mastaler.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA12648; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 20:51:41 -0600 (MDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Steven L Baur's message of "18 Jul 1997 12:49:58 -0700" Original-Lines: 48 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.63/XEmacs 19.15 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11725 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11725 Steven L Baur writes: > It's indexed using Swish, a front-end to WWWWAIS, anything else > WWWWAIS should be O.K. if I'm reading the sparse documentation correctly. Yeah, Swish is a really old program that isn't really being maintained or supported by it's author. > That's what I like about the Emacs community -- you can't get away > with *anything* ... :-/ :-) > I didn't find this problem until after indexing the archives twice (a > *most* painful process -- ~100 minutes at 95% CPU on a Pentium 100). I was using swish and wwwwais a few years ago when running a couple of really large mailing list archives (like the DIRECT-L LISTSERV) and found it frustrating. I was happy when I found Excite for Web Servers (EWS). It works great and is free. For more info see, http://www.excite.com/navigate/home.html > Now for the important question, these archives have to move off of > miranova.com sometime soonish since I haven't worked for them > since April. The stablest home I can provide for them would be at > xemacs.org. A more logical place might be gnus.org. What do people > think? My idea for gnus.org was primarily to provide a placeholder and common entry point for those seeking the various Gnus resources. I don't think it matters if the archives are located elsewhere as long as gnus.org always points in their direction. I think distributing the responsibility for all these resources (mailing lists in one place, archives in another, faq in still another, etc) with the common tie being gnus.org works well because it doesn't put all the eggs in one basket, yet still ties everything together. Also, a large searchable archive can sometimes put undue restraints on a heavily loaded web server. The SGI Challenge server gnus.org is hosted on is a shared webserver hosting a number of other websites for customers of various sorts. So, it would probably be best if another site could catch the archives. However, this is an important resource, so if noone else is able to do this, I could probably work something out. Sorry for the delay in response, I've had my nose in a new book _all_ day. Jason R. Mastaler jason@mastaler.com