Re: 19.34/GNUS & Mail

Re: 19.34/GNUS & Mail

[Richard Pieri]

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>>>>> "BC" == Bruce Cook <bcook@wantree.com.au> writes:

BC> I upgraded to 19.34 from 19.31 on my NT system a couple
BC> of days ago, and have started seeing weird shit happening
BC> with forward-message from GNUS	(Som).

sendmail.el does not quite work correctly with Win32.  You need to
change send-mail-function to use smtpmail-send-it instead of
sendmail-send-it.  You may also need to likewise change
message-send-mail-function.

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Re: 19.34/GNUS & Mail

[Steven L Baur]

>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Pieri <ratinox@unilab.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:

Richard> sendmail.el does not quite work correctly with Win32.  You
Richard> need to change send-mail-function to use smtpmail-send-it
Richard> instead of sendmail-send-it.  You may also need to likewise
Richard> change message-send-mail-function.

Sendmail.el is a pain, period.  I would not be adverse to making
smtpmail the default.
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steve@miranova.com baur
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What are the last two letters of "doesn't" and "can't"?
Coincidence?  I think not.

Re: 19.34/GNUS & Mail

[William Perry]

Steven L. Baur writes:
>>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Pieri <ratinox@unilab.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:
>
>Richard> sendmail.el does not quite work correctly with Win32.  You
>Richard> need to change send-mail-function to use smtpmail-send-it
>Richard> instead of sendmail-send-it.  You may also need to likewise
>Richard> change message-send-mail-function.
>
>Sendmail.el is a pain, period.  I would not be adverse to making
>smtpmail the default.

  There is a distinct and noticeable slowdown when sending mail.  

  And you can't do delayed 'batching' of mail messages like sendmail gets
you for free.  I really enjoyed that working on my laptop on the bus this
morning. :)

-Bill P.

Re: 19.34/GNUS & Mail

[Steven L Baur]

>>>>> "William" == William Perry <wmperry@aventail.com> writes:

sb> Sendmail.el is a pain, period.  I would not be adverse to making
sb> smtpmail the default.

William>   There is a distinct and noticeable slowdown when sending mail.  

Yes, but not more so than letting nnfolder+archive:misc-mail get big.

William> And you can't do delayed 'batching' of mail messages like
William> sendmail gets you for free.  I really enjoyed that working on
William> my laptop on the bus this morning. :)

If that works, you can:
1)  Point your smtpmail-smtp-server at your local MTA
2)  Switch your message send parameters for the duration of the bus
    trip
3)  Not be using smtpmail in the first place, that's what .gnus &
    custom are for.

It's distinctly easier to configure a machine to send outgoing mail
through a network connection than it is to properly set up sendmail or
the equivalent.
-- 
steve@miranova.com baur
Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be billed at $250/message.
What are the last two letters of "doesn't" and "can't"?
Coincidence?  I think not.

Re: 19.34/GNUS & Mail

[Richard Pieri]

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>>>>> "WP" == William Perry <wmperry@aventail.com> writes:

WP>  There is a distinct and noticeable slowdown when sending mail.

Because smtpmail.el talks to the SMTP daemon via a TCP connection while
sendmail.el invokes sendmail directly.

WP> And you can't do delayed 'batching' of mail messages like sendmail
WP> gets you for free.

Well, for those of us running on Windows 95 machines, we usually do not
have sendmail to do this for us.  Thus, we use things like queuemail.el
to (not suprisingly) queue mail, and smtpmail.el to (wonder of wonders)
talk to a SMTP server.

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