From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76356 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: "no process" gnus bug when moving messages from nnml to imap folder Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:23:40 -0800 Message-ID: References: <8762t1dww9.fsf@gnus.org> <871v3orhhw.fsf@gnus.org> <87k4hgq1du.fsf@gnus.org> <8739o4kwg4.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296843867 3648 80.91.229.12 (4 Feb 2011 18:24:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 04 19:24:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PlQKU-0008SQ-8m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 19:24:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60187 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PlQKT-0003Nb-PY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:24:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33817 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PlQKM-0003IZ-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:24:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PlQKI-0008J0-K3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:24:14 -0500 Original-Received: from igloo.linux.gr ([62.1.205.36]:53508) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PlQKI-0008IA-70 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:24:10 -0500 X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.899, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, FREEMAIL_FROM 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: p14INfRF020176 Original-Received: from gkeramidas-glaptop.linux.gr (216-239-45-4.google.com [216.239.45.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id p14INfRF020176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:23:48 +0200 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 62.1.205.36 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:135582 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76356 Archived-At: On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 00:58:35 -0800, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > >> Another is that once this happens *once* for some message, then it's no >> longer possible to `B m' even other normal messages. It seems that when >> Gmail drops the connection Gnus gets 'stuck' trying to recover from the >> dropped connection, or trying to use the connection that is no longer >> available. > > Do you get the same result if you use `B c' instead of `B m'? I've > been testing with `B c' (since copying is easier -- you can copy as > many times as you want), and I am unable to reproduce this. If I `B > c' a NUL-bearing message, Gmail drops the connection, and if I then `B > c' a non-NUL message, everything works just fine -- it reestablishes > the connection and copies the message. Yes, I get the same result with `B c'. What seems odd is that I see two different imap backends in my buffer list. My ~/.gnus file includes: (setq gnus-nntp-server "news.sunsite.dk") (setq nntp-authinfo-function 'nntp-send-authinfo) (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.sunsite.dk")) (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "") (nnimap "gmail" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com") (nnimap-server-port 993) (nnimap-stream tls)))) Completion offers both `nnimap:gmail' and `nnimap:imap.gmail.com' as a valid `B c' destination, but they both respond that the newly created imap buffer has no connection when I move or copy messages from an nnml source folder. Other imap operations seem to work fine though, e.g. all the following work fine: - copying messages from imap folders to local nnml folders - moving messages from imap folders to local nnml folders - getting new messages into imap folders by typing `g' - flag updates when I modify messages through gmail's web interface and type `g' in gnus I can even see messages marked in Gnus with '!' as starred messages in the web interface of Gmail, and when I unmark them in Gnus and type `g' they get unstarred in the web UI too. Whatever the problem is with `B c' and `B m' it seems specific to using an imap folder as the destination of the messages. As a source nnimap folders seem to work more than fine. I noticed that nnimap access is now blazingly fast too. I started using Gmail's imap access method only because it's now very very fast to access the messages from Gnus too :-)