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>> No DMARC! > > By the way, DKIM is INTERNET STANDATD -- RFC 6376. So i respect DKIM > signature, as very special thing! > > Therefore, final attitude is using Gnus and DKIM.=20 > > It is the real best reputation on the email world. Sorry to all. Today i had to setup SPF for @doraji.xyz as you know 10 hours ago. There is a story. Let me say that: ... on the phone ... me: "i sent mail to you" help desk: "not recevied" me: "you check spam foler?" help desk: "not receviced, too" me: "hey please really?!" help desk: "NOT RECEVIED!!!" me: "ok i got it see you later" 3 seconds later, i did have setup SPF record in cloudflare: #+begin_src text v=3Dspf1 include:_spf.google.com +all #+end_src then try email again with subject "[RESEND]..." ... on the phone ... me: "i sent mail again 3 minutes ago" help desk: "yeh! now recevied mail with [RESEND]..." me: "ok thanks!" That's today's my story in South Korea. So for a while i have to go with both DKIM and SPF, ... Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee --=20 =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC, =EB=8C=80=EC=88=B2=EB=86=8D=EC=9E=A5 =EA=B2=BD=EB=B6=81 =EC=9A=B8=EC=A7=84=EA=B5=B0 =ED=8F=89=ED=95=B4=EC=9D=8D = =ED=8F=89=EC=98=A4=EA=B3=A1=EA=B8=B8 213-12 [36363] =EB=B9=84=EC=83=81 =EC=97=B0=EB=9D=BD=EB=A7=9D: 010-7558-5952