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From: Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: auth-source.el and eieio
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:40:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xksjvqei9k.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tyg6skad.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:33:30 -0600")

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:45:32 -0800 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 
>
> LI> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
>>> Gnus still supports Emacs 23.1 and earlier, however the eieio
>>> module is not available there.  secrets.el is not, either.
>>> How do we manage the new auth-source.el?
>
> LI> Hm, yes.  That's not good.  Is there a way for auth-source "degrade
> LI> gracefully" when eieio and secrets.el isn't present?
>
> Ugh.  EIEIO requires other libraries and it really improves the code
> IMO.  I'm using `oref' in many places and it allows both the 'property
> and the :property styles.  It would be a pain to rewrite it all and I'd
> like to keep using `defclass' in Gnus.  Also, EIEIO has special glue to
> allow objects to be customized in place in Emacs, which was one of the
> reasons I chose it.
>
> Can we require CEDET to be installed to use Gnus?  It's not a huge
> burden on the user.  We can even fetch and install it during the build.

cedet is part of emacs 24 afaik but it's a huge monster. Thats a hell of
a need to run a mail client.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-14 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-14  1:25 Katsumi Yamaoka
2011-02-14  1:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-14 15:33   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-14 15:40     ` Richard Riley [this message]
2011-02-14 16:49       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-14 17:39         ` David Engster
2011-02-14 18:02           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-14 20:16             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-14 20:44               ` David Engster
2011-02-14 20:45               ` Reiner Steib
2011-02-14 21:09                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-14 22:01                   ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-16  9:20                   ` Reiner Steib
2011-02-16 19:10                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-16 20:59                       ` David Engster
2011-02-14 21:07               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-14 21:18                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-14 21:26                   ` David Engster
2011-02-14 21:39                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-14 21:53                       ` David Engster
2011-02-14 21:57                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-14 22:07                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-14 22:20                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-14 22:33                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-15  8:11                                 ` Reiner Steib
2011-02-15  8:41                                   ` David Engster
2011-02-15 13:43                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-15 14:11                                     ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-16 20:28                                     ` Reiner Steib
2011-02-16 20:50                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-16 22:16                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-17  0:31                                           ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2011-02-17  0:40                                             ` Matt Lundin
2011-02-17 14:02                                           ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-17 17:06                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-17 18:46                                               ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-17 22:01                                                 ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-17 22:39                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-18  8:48                                                     ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-18 10:52                                                       ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-18 12:22                                                         ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-18 20:26                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-18 21:33                                                       ` Charles Philip Chan
2011-02-19 18:00                                                         ` Charles Philip Chan
2011-02-21 16:53                                                           ` Charles Philip Chan
2011-02-18 22:11                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-22 21:53                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-14 22:46                               ` David Engster
2011-02-15  8:37                             ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-14 22:18                           ` David Engster
2011-02-14 22:04                   ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-15  8:13                     ` Jochen Hein
2011-02-16 20:15                       ` Jochen Hein
2011-02-14  9:49 ` Michael Albinus
2011-02-14 15:26   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-14 15:47     ` Michael Albinus
2011-02-14 16:54       ` Ted Zlatanov

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