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Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:45:32 -0800 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 
>
> LI> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
>>> Gnus still supports Emacs 23.1 and earlier, however the eieio
>>> module is not available there.  secrets.el is not, either.
>>> How do we manage the new auth-source.el?
>
> LI> Hm, yes.  That's not good.  Is there a way for auth-source "degrade
> LI> gracefully" when eieio and secrets.el isn't present?
>
> Ugh.  EIEIO requires other libraries and it really improves the code
> IMO.  I'm using `oref' in many places and it allows both the 'property
> and the :property styles.  It would be a pain to rewrite it all and I'd
> like to keep using `defclass' in Gnus.  Also, EIEIO has special glue to
> allow objects to be customized in place in Emacs, which was one of the
> reasons I chose it.
>
> Can we require CEDET to be installed to use Gnus?  It's not a huge
> burden on the user.  We can even fetch and install it during the build.

cedet is part of emacs 24 afaik but it's a huge monster. Thats a hell of
a need to run a mail client.