From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/32014 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arnd Kohrs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Subscription Question Date: 09 Aug 2000 14:24:09 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035168358 17410 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:45:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79FBD051E for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAC15030; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:25:19 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 09 Aug 2000 07:23:55 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12148 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:23:43 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from monza.eurecom.fr (monza.eurecom.fr [193.55.113.133]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5ACAD051E for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from iceberg.eurecom.fr (iceberg.eurecom.fr [193.55.114.69]) by monza.eurecom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9F718BD2 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:24:11 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: (from kohrs@localhost) by iceberg.eurecom.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09743; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:24:09 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: iceberg.eurecom.fr: kohrs set sender to kohrs@iceberg using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: 1ETYv*X5`lW"hk(KWE,1u!/CnnMxdgn[B^=m*EUHa->O^!+d3x]l[_W$Y)E#1~_=+Ty..'B,|Am/!zh|sy6VS5&_x:7WjiJQgIsqct%a{s^F8jsI|(bKyplR'$FYjrg6Vu}kPbk&||'b99Yps%x?{NIMx?[YF2-K[IF*CLg:U0H/E}*'&$"c4"HCrHR;?Uk\%U}TBTb;GFrr**>=q3C@8_0]&!)`vc~Q#b`k`\]F=3#g4w)9pxI|qjPK:lTRU`UTb-w]mZ4OU6 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.4 In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:40:44 +0200" Original-Lines: 55 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.4 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32014 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32014 >>>>> "Kai" == Kai Großjohann writes: Kai> On 08 Aug 2000, Arnd Kohrs wrote: >> Hi, >> >> while fiddling with a self-made backend, I experience the >> following undesired behavior: >> >> I have a server which is created in the server buffer and exposes >> like the following upon pressing "e": >> >> (nntmf "fool.com" (nntmf-address "boards.fool.com")) >> >> When I subscribe to a group on this server and edit this group's >> select method via "G e" i shows as follows: >> >> (nntmf "fool.com" (nntmf-address "boards.fool.com")) >> >> But this is undesired (and wrong I believe), and I actually would >> be happier with >> >> (nntmf "fool.com") >> >> (which is now achieved by editing the select method each time I >> subscribe to a new group) Kai> No, you certainly don't want (nntmf "foo.com"). I think you Kai> want "nntmf:fool.com". Now I figured out why the groups get subscribed with the method instead of the server-name. When a group is subscribed to gnus-browse-unsubscribe-group call gnus-method-simplify to transform the method to a server-name. However, this works only for methods listed in gnus-secondary-servers and NOT for methods created in the server buffer. Bug or feature? This question is beyond me - since there is too much gnus design philosophy involved. I guess this is a bug and gnus-method-simplify should try to look also in gnus-opened-servers to find a server-name but that probably creates some problems for volatile servers. My resolution for the moment: Define lasting methods in gnus-secondary-select-methods (not in the server buffer) to avoid trouble. Cheers, Arnd. -- Arnd Kohrs - Institut Eurecom - http://www.eurecom.fr/~kohrs The Active WebMuseum: Your personalized access to art paintings. Visit now -> http://www.eurecom.fr/~kohrs/museum.html