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From: joda@pdc.kth.se (Johan Danielsson)
Cc: Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org>, ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Default mail address
Date: 21 Jun 1997 15:48:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xofg1ucjcca.fsf@blubb.pdc.kth.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Justin Sheehy's message of 20 Jun 1997 21:38:40 -0400

Justin Sheehy <dworkin@ccs.neu.edu> writes:

First some background.

     4.4.2.  SENDER / RESENT-SENDER

        This field contains the authenticated identity  of  the  AGENT
        (person,  system  or  process)  that sends the message.  It is
        intended for use when the sender is not the author of the mes-
        sage,  or  to  indicate  who among a group of authors actually
        sent the message.  If the contents of the "Sender" field would
        be  completely  redundant  with  the  "From"  field,  then the
        "Sender" field need not be present and its use is  discouraged
        (though  still legal).  In particular, the "Sender" field MUST
        be present if it is NOT the same as the "From" Field.

        The Sender mailbox  specification  includes  a  word  sequence
        which  must correspond to a specific agent (i.e., a human user
        or a computer program) rather than a standard  address.   This
        indicates  the  expectation  that  the field will identify the
        single AGENT (person,  system,  or  process)  responsible  for
        sending  the mail and not simply include the name of a mailbox
        from which the mail was sent.  For example in the  case  of  a
        shared login name, the name, by itself, would not be adequate.
        The local-part address unit, which refers to  this  agent,  is
        expected to be a computer system term, and not (for example) a
        generalized person reference which can  be  used  outside  the
        network text message context.

        Since the critical function served by the  "Sender"  field  is
        identification  of  the agent responsible for sending mail and
        since computer programs cannot be held accountable  for  their
        behavior, it is strongly recommended that when a computer pro-
        gram generates a message, the HUMAN  who  is  responsible  for
        that program be referenced as part of the "Sender" field mail-
        box specification.

> Software that replies to the Sender: and ignores the From: header is
> broken and should not be catered to.

     4.4.4.  AUTOMATIC USE OF FROM / SENDER / REPLY-TO

        For systems which automatically  generate  address  lists  for
        replies to messages, the following recommendations are made:

            o   The "Sender" field mailbox should be sent  notices  of
                any  problems in transport or delivery of the original
                messages.  If there is no  "Sender"  field,  then  the
                "From" field mailbox should be used.

With Gnus I get a sender that looks like `joda@blubb.pdc.kth.se',
which is not a mailbox; blubb.pdc.kth.se does not have an MX record
and does not run any kind of MTA.

What is so good about adding a useless `address' as sender of the
message?

/Johan


  reply	other threads:[~1997-06-21 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-06-20 17:50 Ben Gertzfield
1997-06-20 19:19 ` Default mail address (duh, solved) Ben Gertzfield
1997-06-20 19:53 ` Default mail address Justin Sheehy
1997-06-20 23:39   ` Alan Shutko
1997-06-21  1:38     ` Justin Sheehy
1997-06-21 13:48       ` Johan Danielsson [this message]
1997-06-21 14:40         ` Per Abrahamsen
1997-06-21 14:52           ` Johan Danielsson
     [not found]           ` <wkafkislf9.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-06-22 17:18             ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]               ` <wkiuz5wdrl.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-06-23 18:10                 ` Johan Danielsson
1997-06-23 12:44             ` Per Abrahamsen
1997-06-21  2:00     ` Hrvoje Niksic
1997-06-21  9:01       ` Russ Allbery
1997-06-25  4:52         ` Roderick Schertler
1997-06-26 18:58       ` Steven L Baur
1997-06-23  9:40   ` Robert Bihlmeyer

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