nnmail-tmp-directory

nnmail-tmp-directory

[Linus Nordberg]

hi,

somewhere between pgnus-0.71 and pgnus-0.73, Incoming-files stopped
landing in nnmail-tmp-directory.

--linus

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Linus Nordberg]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> Yep.  Lots of mail handling things were changed for more generic handling
> of mail type stuff.  Some of nnmail-<foo> has become mail-source-<bar>; in
> this case, I think you want mail-source-directory.

correct.  works like a charm.  thanks.

--linus

nnmail-tmp-directory

[Michael Cook]

Previously, we could set `nnmail-tmp-directory' to cause gnus to
drop its `Incoming*' files into a specific directory.

Now, with the new mail-source stuff, gnus seems to be hardcoded to
drop them into `mail-source-directory' (~/Mail).

Am I missing something?  Is there a way to get gnus to put these
Incoming files into, say, my ~/tmp directory?

M.

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Peter von der Ahé]

>>>>> "MC" == Michael Cook <cook@sightpath.com> writes:

 MC> Previously, we could set `nnmail-tmp-directory' to cause gnus to
 MC> drop its `Incoming*' files into a specific directory.

 MC> Now, with the new mail-source stuff, gnus seems to be hardcoded
 MC> to drop them into `mail-source-directory' (~/Mail).

 MC> Am I missing something?  Is there a way to get gnus to put these
 MC> Incoming files into, say, my ~/tmp directory?

 MC> M.

Set `mail-source-directory' instead.

Kind Regards
Peter

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Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Michael Cook]

nospam2159@daimi.au.dk (Peter von der Ahé) writes:

> >>>>> "MC" == Michael Cook <cook@sightpath.com> writes:
> 
>  MC> Previously, we could set `nnmail-tmp-directory' to cause gnus to
>  MC> drop its `Incoming*' files into a specific directory.
> 
>  MC> Now, with the new mail-source stuff, gnus seems to be hardcoded
>  MC> to drop them into `mail-source-directory' (~/Mail).
> 
>  MC> Am I missing something?  Is there a way to get gnus to put these
>  MC> Incoming files into, say, my ~/tmp directory?
> 
> Set `mail-source-directory' instead.

Hmm.  The documentation for that variable says:

  Directory where files (if any) will be stored.

It doesn't say anything about these files being only scratch files
(unlike nnmail-tmp-directory, which is a pretty unambiguous name).

And because the default value for mail-source-directory is ~/Mail,
which is not a tmp-ish directory, pointing mail-source-directory at
my ~/tmp directory seems like asking for trouble.

M.

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Michael Cook <cook@sightpath.com> writes:

> It doesn't say anything about these files being only scratch files
> (unlike nnmail-tmp-directory, which is a pretty unambiguous name).

Well, that's the only things that are stored there now, but that may
change in the future.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Edward J. Sabol]

Excerpts from mail: (28-Jan-99) Re: nnmail-tmp-directory by Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
> Michael Cook <cook@sightpath.com> writes:
>> It doesn't say anything about these files being only scratch files
>> (unlike nnmail-tmp-directory, which is a pretty unambiguous name).
>
> Well, that's the only things that are stored there now, but that may
> change in the future.

If that's the case, may I suggest you add a mail-source-tmp-directory
variable explicitly for specifying the storage location of the Incoming*
files and any other scratch files which may be needed in the future?

Thanks,
Ed

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Edward J. Sabol]

Excerpts from mail: (28-Jan-99) Re: nnmail-tmp-directory by Stainless Steel Rat
>> If that's the case, may I suggest you add a mail-source-tmp-directory
>> variable explicitly for specifying the storage location of the Incoming*
>> files and any other scratch files which may be needed in the future?
>
> Ummm... mail-source-directory already does all this.  Your proposed
> variable is 100% redundant.

Currently, yes, but Lars said that, in the future, the mail-source-directory
may be used for storing files other than Incoming* files.

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> Actually, it would probably be better to rename mail-source-directory to
> mail-source-t(e)mp-directory, since that is what it is, and create
> mail-source-directory when it becomes required.

A temp directory, to me, is a place to store things purely while
diddling them.  This isn't what `mail-source-directory' is -- it's a
place where mail-source puts things after it's done diddling with
them.  Which is something else, I think.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> I would word the definition more like, a temp directory is a place I put
> files that will be deleted when I am done frobnicating them.  This is how
> nnmail-tmp-directory was used.  This is how mail-source-directory is
> currently being used, which is why I suggested the name change.

But the Incoming* files are files that are pre-frobnicated.  They are
guaranteed not to be subjected to more frobnification once they land
there... 

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Michael Cook]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> 
> > I would word the definition more like, a temp directory is a place I put
> > files that will be deleted when I am done frobnicating them.  This is how
> > nnmail-tmp-directory was used.  This is how mail-source-directory is
> > currently being used, which is why I suggested the name change.
> 
> But the Incoming* files are files that are pre-frobnicated.  They are
> guaranteed not to be subjected to more frobnification once they land
> there... 

So, shall we rename it?  To rename or not to rename!

All these Incoming* files showing up in my ~/Mail directory are a
nuisance.  But I don't want to point mail-source-directory at my
~/tmp for fear of missing announcements of future uses of
mail-source-directory.

M.

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Justin Sheehy]

Michael Cook <cook@sightpath.com> writes:

> All these Incoming* files showing up in my ~/Mail directory are a
> nuisance.

Just delete them periodically.  How big a deal is it to 
'rm ~/Mail/Incoming*' once every week or two?

As a user of alpha software, one should not be daunted by such
small things.  :-)

-Justin

Re: nnmail-tmp-directory

[Kai.Grossjohann]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

  > This is how mail-source-directory is currently being used, which
  > is why I suggested the name change.

Please note that nnmail-delete-incoming is nil in pgnus :-)

kai
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