From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/41989 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Z Maze Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus slow incorporating vast quantities of mail Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:19:14 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035177298 9009 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:14:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 898 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2002 19:19:55 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2002 19:19:55 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16QCdr-0006Qh-00; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:19:35 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:19:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA17240 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:19:13 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 875 invoked by alias); 14 Jan 2002 19:19:15 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 870 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2002 19:19:15 -0000 Original-Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (18.7.21.83) by gnus.org with SMTP; 14 Jan 2002 19:19:15 -0000 Original-Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA23675 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:19:15 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA27220; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:19:15 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from nerd-xing.mit.edu (NERD-XING.MIT.EDU [18.7.16.74]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA01738; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:19:14 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Russ Allbery's message of "Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:47:03 -0800") Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090005 (Oort Gnus v0.05) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence, sparc-sun-solaris2.8) X-Attribution: DZM Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41989 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41989 Russ Allbery writes: > David Z Maze writes: >> More configuration details: using nnml (into an AFS directory) fed >> by a (Kerberized) POP server, sorting using a moderately complex >> nnmail-split-fancy rule set. Most of the time it works reasonably; >> 'ls -lSr ~/Mail' says that the new three largest Incoming... files >> I have are 2.5, 1.4, and 1.2 MB, respectively, and I haven't >> noticed sorting those being too painful. > >> Any hints as to what might cause this? > > Did a lot of that mail sort into the same directory? I don't trust > AFS file creation speed, and I particularly don't trust AFS with > large directories. I think there were over a thousand messages to debian-user, for example. I don't think they were particularly clustered, though. Hmm. (1409 distinct messages in mail.lists.debian.user currently.) > Note also that AFS performance can vary a *lot* depending on network > conditions, file server load, and a lot of other things that are > hard to measure or control. -- David Maze dmaze@mit.edu http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ ...and if you think slurping in 8.5MB of mail is slow, try 'ls -F /afs'.