From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39364 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Z Maze Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Getting new mail really slow with nnml marks Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:54:06 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175080 27459 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:38:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 24061 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 16:54:48 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 16:54:48 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15ttxf-0001f2-00; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:54:31 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:54:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06611 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:53:55 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 24046 invoked by alias); 17 Oct 2001 16:54:09 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24041 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 16:54:09 -0000 Original-Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (18.7.21.83) by gnus.org with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 16:54:09 -0000 Original-Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA16779 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA08407; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from indiana.mit.edu (INDIANA.MIT.EDU [18.18.1.138]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA13242; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 82 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) X-Attribution: DZM Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39364 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39364 Simon Josefsson writes: SJ> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, David Z Maze wrote: DZM> Since the nnml not-in-newsrc.eld mark code got added, sucking in new DZM> mail has been really slow for me. Setting (setq gnus-verbose-backends DZM> 10) and pressing 'g' from the group buffer reveals that Gnus is DZM> reading, updating, and writing the mark files for every single group, DZM> regardless of whether or not it has new mail. SJ> SJ> Since 2001-09-08 this is precisely what should be happening. Have you SJ> checked out since then? Yeah; I typically update once a week or so, depending on how broken ding makes the CVS version sound. :-) Just updated again, and the problem is still there. SJ> If so, could you quote the exact messages from the backend? Reading active file from news via nntp... Reading active file via nnml... nnml: Reading incoming mail from pop... Wrote /afs/sipb.mit.edu/user/dmaze/Mail/mail/lists/gnus/ding/6328 Wrote /afs/sipb.mit.edu/user/dmaze/Mail/mail/lists/handhelds/familiar/936 Wrote /afs/sipb.mit.edu/user/dmaze/Mail/mail/lists/reuse/15551 Wrote /afs/sipb.mit.edu/user/dmaze/Mail/mail/lists/gnus/ding/6329 Wrote /afs/sipb.mit.edu/user/dmaze/Mail/mail/misc/impersonal/8355 Wrote /afs/sipb.mit.edu/user/dmaze/Mail/mail/lists/handhelds/familiar/937 Wrote /afs/sipb.mit.edu/user/dmaze/Mail/mail/lists/debian/user/177193 nnml: Reading incoming mail (8 new)...done Reading active file via nnml... Reading active file via nnml...done Reading active file via nndsc... nndsc: Reading 53 groups... nndsc: Reading groups... 53 left (waiting for info-afs) nndsc: Reading groups... 52 left (waiting for openafs-announce) (...) nndsc: Reading groups... 2 left (waiting for ca) nndsc: Reading groups... 1 left (waiting for vi) nndsc: Reading groups...done Checking new news... Updating marks for mail.cag.admin... Updating marks for mail.cag.admin...done Updating marks for mail.classes.17... Updating marks for mail.classes.17...done Updating marks for mail.classes.18... Updating marks for mail.classes.18...done Updating marks for mail.classes.6.035.cvs-log... Updating marks for mail.classes.6.035.cvs-log...done (...) Updating marks for mail.cag.projects.streamit... Updating marks for mail.cag.projects.streamit...done Updating marks for mail.cag.misc... Updating marks for mail.cag.misc...done Checking new news...done (There are also quite a few garbage collects while doing the "updating marks" bit, but these don't seem to show up in the XEmacs log.) SJ> Could you also do a `stat ~/Mail/somennmlgroup/.marks' to see if SJ> perhaps there is something weird with the modtime field? {5} Mail% stat mail/cag/misc/.marks File: "mail/cag/misc/.marks" Size: 84 Blocks: 2 IO Block: 4096 Regular File Device: ah/10d Inode: 704955028 Links: 1 Access: (0600/-rw-------) Uid: ( 2367/ dmaze) Gid: ( 101/ gdm) Access: Tue Oct 16 19:01:23 2001 Modify: Tue Oct 16 19:01:23 2001 Change: Tue Oct 16 19:01:23 2001 (That's a little weird; I'd expect at least one of those times to be Wed Oct 17 16:50:00 2001 or thereabouts.) SJ> (I guess some network filesystems could skip that field. What fs SJ> are you using?) Transarc AFS, with both the client and servers being on Suns running Solaris, I believe. -- David Maze dmaze@mit.edu http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell