From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53494 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Z Maze Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How do you read mails when gnus is not available? 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If you're in a situation where you can read mail via IMAP and make arbitrary outgoing SMTP connections, any other mail reader is fine. I tend to use mutt (with vi as an editor) when I'm not willing to wait for Gnus to start up or dig through my mail. (And before I figured out that mutt in fact required far less configuration than Gnus, I was using pine in the same way.) > Gnus is something that I cannot do without. But sometimes I am away > From my machine and it is hard to get good connection to my machine. > It is quite difficult to do something with a remote gnus due to the > slow connection. What problems do you have? How I use Gnus depends on what sort of network I have: -- Excellent (Ethernet to the file servers): run Gnus locally, read mail via nnml from networked filesystem (AFS) -- Good (cable modem): run Gnus remotely with X forwarding -- Bad (dialup, congested net): run Gnus remotely in text mode in screen I do recommend using screen(1) if you're going to run Emacs in text mode in a slow environment. That way if you lose your connection you haven't lost Emacs, you just need to reconnect to the dormant screen session. I do recommend changing the default command key binding, though, since screen's default (C-a) is also the Emacs start-of-line character; I use C-]. {14} dmaze% cat .screenrc startup_message off escape ^]a -- David Maze dmaze@mit.edu http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell