Re: Trouble with spam.el and ifile

[David Z Maze <dmaze@MIT.EDU>]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Tue, 07 Jan 2003, dmaze@MIT.EDU wrote:
>> spam-summary-prepare-exit, eh?  That has
>> 
>>   ;; Only for spam groups, we expire and maybe move articles
>>   (when (spam-group-spam-contents-p gnus-newsgroup-name)
>>     (spam-mark-spam-as-expired-and-move-routine
>>      (gnus-parameter-spam-process-destination gnus-newsgroup-name)))
>> 
>> ...but that seems to be the opposite behavior from what I expect
>
> The behavior made sense to me at the time, but I see what you mean and
> my original thought was wrong.  Perhaps it should be either reversed
> to apply to groups that are not spam (ham + unclassified), or *all*
> groups should have their spam-marked articles processed by
> spam-mark-spam-as-expired-and-move-routine.  Should I pick one or the
> other, or make it yet another user option?

Picking one or the other is probably fine.  Reversing the sense of the
test makes sense to me.

>> -- Is there any way to specify a group as a ham group besides group
>>    parameters?  I want every nnml group except my spam group to be
>>    ham, but not groups in other backends, and my topic hierarchy
>>    mixes news, mail, and other things.  Setting ham on a per-group
>>    basis is prohibitive with several hundred nnml groups and
>>    automatic group generation from split methods.
>
> I'm not sure what other way to provide.  You can already do it  by
> regex (which should be able to do an exception).  How would you
> suggest handling your case?  A function hook?

By regex would be great, but I don't know which variable to set.  (By
regex is even better if spamness overrides hamness, since then
"nnml:.*" can be ham.)  In particular,

(defun spam-group-ham-contents-p (group)
  (if (stringp group)
      (memq 'gnus-group-spam-classification-ham
            (gnus-parameter-spam-contents group))
    nil))

doesn't do any obvious testing of group against a regex;
gnus-group-spam-contents-p at least tests if the group is a member of
spam-junk-mailgroups.  *pause*  *enlightenment*  I want to set

(setq gnus-spam-newsgroup-contents
  '(("nnml:.*"             gnus-group-spam-classification-ham)
    ("nnml:mail.misc.spam" gnus-group-spam-classification-spam)))

since it looks like the magic in gnus-define-group-parameter picks the
last matching regexp from the alist.  Probably (gnus)Filtering Spam
Using spam.el should talk about this; now that I think I have some
understanding, would you like me to write up some text?

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