How to change name to the draft group?

How to change name to the draft group?

[Rodolfo Medina]

I'd like to change the draft group's name, which is
'nndraft:drafts' by default, into another one at my pleasure.
I couldn't find any cue in Gnus Manual.

Any hint?
Thanks,
Rodolfo

Re: How to change name to the draft group?

[Reiner Steib]

On Sun, Sep 04 2005, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> I'd like to change the draft group's name, which is
> 'nndraft:drafts' by default, into another one at my pleasure.
> I couldn't find any cue in Gnus Manual.

It's not possible (and it makes no sense, IMHO).

> Any hint?

Please stop multi-posting the same questions to several list or groups
and don't unnecessarily Cc people.

I'd recommend to post such questions to gnu.emacs.gnus.
help-gnu-emacs (= gnu.emacs.help = gmane.emacs.help) is more general
(not Gnus specific).  ding@gnus.org (= gmane.emacs.gnus.general) is
more suitable for questions concerning Gnus development (versions).

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: How to change name to the draft group?

[Henrik Enberg]

> From:  Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>
> Date:  Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:32:54 +0200
> 
> On Sun, Sep 04 2005, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
> > I'd like to change the draft group's name, which is
> > 'nndraft:drafts' by default, into another one at my pleasure.
> > I couldn't find any cue in Gnus Manual.
> 
> It's not possible (and it makes no sense, IMHO).

It might make sense to be able to keep it on an imap server.

Re: How to change name to the draft group?

[Reiner Steib]

On Sun, Sep 04 2005, Henrik Enberg wrote:

>> From:  Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>
>> On Sun, Sep 04 2005, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> 
>> > I'd like to change the draft group's name, [...]
>> 
>> It's not possible (and it makes no sense, IMHO).
>
> It might make sense to be able to keep it on an imap server.

But renaming doesn't make this happen.  Storing drafts on IMAP isn't
implemented yet, IIRC.  Volunteer welcome!

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Re: How to change name to the draft group?

[Rodolfo Medina]

Reiner Steib wrote:

> Please stop multi-posting the same questions to several list or groups


Lists and groups in Internet are the only possibility for me to get help,
since no person I know is a Gnus user. 
When I don't get the help I need from a list or group, 
I try elsewhere because I wish to find the solution.
I really can't see any crime in this.


> and don't unnecessarily Cc people.


I thought it was normal, other listers did the same with me.
I'm not really subscribed to the list, I'm checking articles
from the archive, so I don't know well how it works.
Sorry, anyhow.



> I'd recommend to post such questions to gnu.emacs.gnus.
> help-gnu-emacs (= gnu.emacs.help = gmane.emacs.help) is more general
> (not Gnus specific).  ding <at> gnus.org (= gmane.emacs.gnus.general) is
> more suitable for questions concerning Gnus development (versions).



From the present list came some precious help that neither gnu.emacs.gnus
nor help-gnu-emacs could provide. Without this list some important matters
would perhaps have remained unsolved. It'd be really a shame if it were not
applyable for help by Gnus users.

Regards,
Rodolfo

[OT] multi-posting questions to several lists (was: How to change name to the draft group?)

[Reiner Steib]

On Mon, Sep 05 2005, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Reiner Steib wrote:
>
>> Please stop multi-posting the same questions to several list or groups
>
> Lists and groups in Internet are the only possibility for me to get help,
> since no person I know is a Gnus user. 
> When I don't get the help I need from a list or group, 
> I try elsewhere 

That would imply to wait at least several days after posting it on the
first.  You didn't wait.

> because I wish to find the solution.  I really can't see any crime
> in this.

It's annoying to answer questions an later find out that it has
already been answered on the other list.

>> and don't unnecessarily Cc people.
>
> I thought it was normal, other listers did the same with me.

Learn about Mail-Copies-To and Mail-Followup-To headers.

EOT for me.

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Re: [OT] multi-posting questions to several lists (was: How to change name to the draft group?)

[Rodolfo Medina]

I apologize about multi-posting.
As strange as it may sound, I didn't know it was to be avoided.
Here:
 	
http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html

I read it was and why.
In future, if necessary, I'll be using cross-posting instead
(I hope it is all right).

Rodolfo

Re: [OT] multi-posting questions to several lists (was: How to change name to the draft group?)

[Rodolfo Medina]

I apologize about multi-posting.
As strange as it may sound, I didn't know it was to be avoided.
Here:
 	
http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html

I read it was and why.
In future, if necessary, I'll be using cross-posting instead
(I hope it is all right).

Rodolfo

Re: [OT] multi-posting questions to several lists (was: How to change name to the draft group?)

[Rodolfo Medina]

I apologize about multi-posting.
As strange as it may sound, I didn't know it was to be avoided.
Here:

http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html

I read it was and why.
In future, if necessary, I'll be using cross-posting instead
(I hope it is all right).

Rodolfo

Re: How to change name to the draft group?

[David Z Maze]

Rodolfo Medina <romeomedina@libero.it> writes:

> Reiner Steib wrote:
>
>> Please stop multi-posting the same questions to several list or groups
>
> Lists and groups in Internet are the only possibility for me to get
> help,

The gnu.emacs.gnus group is almost certainly the right place for
beginner Gnus help.  The ding list is almost certainly the right place
for issues with CVS or alpha gnus releases and proposing code changes
with patches.

>> and don't unnecessarily Cc people.
>
> I thought it was normal, other listers did the same with me.  I'm
> not really subscribed to the list, I'm checking articles from the
> archive, so I don't know well how it works.

Common practice on most of the lists I read is to expect everyone
posting to the list to also be subscribed to it, such that a Cc to the
original sender generates a duplicate copy of the mail and so is
vaguely rude.  (The Debian lists, in particular, tend to have people
complaining more loudly about it.)  If you don't want to get ding in
email, you could also read it via nntp through gmane.

> From the present list came some precious help that neither
> gnu.emacs.gnus nor help-gnu-emacs could provide.

AFAICT everyone on the ding list knows of gnu.emacs.gnus, and people
actively interested in helping people as opposed to just writing code
do try to help out there.

  --dzm