From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/60914 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Z Maze Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How to change the default ~/Mail and ~/News dirs with their subdirs? Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 10:28:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1126103479 22610 80.91.229.2 (7 Sep 2005 14:31:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 14:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m9446@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Sep 07 16:31:18 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ED0w5-00063j-OR for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:30:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1ED0w0-0008Gp-00; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:29:56 -0500 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1ED0vG-0008Gk-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:29:10 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ED0vB-0004GK-5h for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:29:10 -0500 Original-Received: from south-station-annex.mit.edu ([18.72.1.2]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ED0v9-00026y-00 for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:29:04 +0200 Original-Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by south-station-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j87ET1CB028432 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing-legacy.mit.edu (OUTGOING-LEGACY.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.104]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j87ET1Dk024342; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from grumpy-fuzzball.mit.edu (GRUMPY-FUZZBALL.MIT.EDU [18.7.16.79]) ) by outgoing-legacy.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j87ESw0v022411; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUGBgS83KhoOivUeFmC pXj4o39qeFZD1JPmAAACOklEQVR4nE2UQY/bIBCFkVPlbpX0bA2tz7sQcl5SlnsWc7cclv// E/oGjNNxokjz8eYxA7HwR9xLKQGRC4eQezqUj7KWnDOzAOB3EjaBKDl4KPARzkvpAIqoUTwI a2op6WVoeXHOlfgsnJPM1kl0SdMIFEJ0AaIJshiRhkCsHbC/51LycKDmgiw2jVJy9B9IDPNN U5NkSMQoR+c5/zTW3qjZgwg5ylpJ2YT4wubO7FEVEs0NhvPJaqzxDaDS2gUpGUjyDkau9NxB fKsmu4Ir2XSpwAjxYwfsfeqlbJwqcAwwcLINxGRWtIhhMEB7ZLoAJudd4aE42e4RCQDjYMXK CpS6XOBtNM7EVfPAbRgihfU08Sg9jqIr9G9JJuo70cCty66gwY6kzJ9xIygyJs7mDNQcSEUV iPSE1qt5mLgUkcGj8ExTbrvii2CwG3UCQkxUXDUPE03KIqPw8Iq33IBfUcbw/Ez9eeo8VvPr qrRNj2RU1DjeaN6cG8c6RKVNnTg+GIDWfAkPBVdK2jC84fCq4n4yik+VNICNtoPlPkScrKmh bPw+FIGSYmBrOUPeNfATjajPpFXtMl0Hvyt4imfzqDvC9zZ3cAEYvlt/ADq7rvDbNKj3RuxC B7gsZRWzbSAaymNXSPxjia8id1GmV6kUyjDMf9vd3daXAiYFd4GvXNzmaT7AspRyJnoif6Nn Ob8UC94fN6KybTSbvB0e46d3Tyzm+I7v4QWW5WGswZulXFNyv/4DGFvqYRv4BxSm28ZwQ4mv AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: &OO..E]'&$Q?jm[7H$]lCS"t#FD[|jK.HfvP#![KZ`/,O)lQ(pE<2QS1i~K3+u\{Bh"(4h4G0W#R-F2zZNO6n\!8bk;tu%)f>y{C` P*^7yM`e/x"b1q[?^-9zxTp In-Reply-To: (romeomedina@libero.it's message of "Sat, 3 Sep 2005 21:14:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.3 (usg-unix-v) X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60914 Archived-At: "romeomedina\@libero\.it" writes: > I'm totally new to the 'newrseaderly fashion' gnus is conceived, > and I still haven't even well understood what a newsreader actually is. [...] > Now, as beginner, I only need three directories: received-mail, > sent-mail and drafts, included under a superdirectory 'mail'. If I read a newsgroup (ObPlug: such as the very useful, not historically directed at Gnus developers, gnu.emacs.gnus group) then I can see every message as far back in history as the news server keeps. My setup actually does try to replicate that: I bcc all mail to myself, I sort each mailing list I'm on and each person I regularly send mail to into a separate group, and then the mailing list groups are total-expirable. It sounds to me as though you're trying to force Outlook's directory structure on to Gnus. As you've discovered, Gnus is very flexible and you can make it do that. But someday you're going to have a question like "how come this article gets stuck in my drafts group" (or, with your setup, "how come nnml finds my drafts group and then everything gets confused") and you'll get told to look in ~/News/drafts and it won't be there. Changing everything for the sake of changing everything isn't necessarily a productive exercise. --dzm