From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44751 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Bely Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Copyright/license issues (was: [COMMIT] sign & encrypt changes) Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 21:16:37 +0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020793058 30908 127.0.0.1 (7 May 2002 17:37:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 1758u9-00082O-00 for ; Tue, 07 May 2002 19:37:38 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1758s4-0006k1-00; Tue, 07 May 2002 12:35:28 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 07 May 2002 12:35:43 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from epithumia.math.uh.edu (epithumia.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08567 for ; Tue, 7 May 2002 12:35:36 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by epithumia.math.uh.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) id g47HZFm28875 for ding@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 7 May 2002 12:35:15 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08557 for ; Tue, 7 May 2002 12:25:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 14483 invoked by alias); 7 May 2002 17:25:21 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14478 invoked from network); 7 May 2002 17:25:20 -0000 Original-Received: from relay.rinet.ru (195.54.192.35) by gnus.org with SMTP; 7 May 2002 17:25:20 -0000 Original-Received: (from uucp@localhost) by relay.rinet.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g47HPC822808; Tue, 7 May 2002 21:25:12 +0400 (MSD) X-Envelope-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Received: from bely.stormoff (BELY) [192.168.0.10] by stormoff with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1758Zo-0000Z1-00; Tue, 07 May 2002 21:16:37 +0400 X-Comment-To: Simon Josefsson Original-To: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Mon, 6 May 2002 16:09:29 +0200 (CEST)") Original-Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (Windows), i586-pc-win32) X-Scanner: exiscan *1758Zo-0000Z1-00*QRP/r6AljEQ* (EURESCOM GmbH, Heidelberg, Germany) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44751 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44751 Simon Josefsson writes: >> >> All XEmacs packages are already precompiled. You may include them in the >> >> distribution, my update them off the XEmacs website, or may create >> >> the necessary .deb packages, that will be handled by apt/dselect. In any >> >> case I fail to understand why having Gnus included into Emacs tarball (and >> >> following FSF copyright policy) is so important. >> > >> > Because it is included? >> >> So there is no real reason. > > Having it included is reason enough for me. Have you really compiled your Emacs from sources? Most people just use the binary package that is included into their OS distribution. And it's up to package maintainer whether to include Gnus, say, into emacs-bla-bla.deb, or create two separate packages emacs-bla-bla.deb and gnus-bla-bla.deb. GNU Emacs tarball contents has nothing to do with that. > I would agree that it would be _better_ if Emacs supported a package > system so that Gnus could be released more frequently, It generally does not matter if GNU Emacs has package system or not. Even if it has not, OS packages are enough. Obviously FSF copyright policy does not affect them. > but last time I saw the discussion about package systems on emacs-devel I > got the impression that RMS didn't like it. One more reason to choose XEmacs :-) Hope to hear from you soon, Dmitry