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>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:

>>>>> Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>:
>> I don't believe it's keyboard-dependent, but I could be wrong.  I've never
>> had meta survive ssh -> xterm -> emacs, which forces two keystrokes (ESC
>> d) instead of one shifted keystroke.

> That works for me.  I work with "emacs -nw" on some slow SSH
> connections, and I do the ssh from an xterm.  And I can use M-commands
> on that emacs, without having to resort to ESC.

> Works from KDE konsole and from gnome-terminal, as well as from xterm (I
> just verified).

The xterm I tried with was xterm-192-8.el4 on RHEL4, which... isn't
exactly the newest and shiniest...

I did the ssh command with the -Y flag, but that shouldn't affect this.