The new nnimap and agent?

The new nnimap and agent?

[Steinar Bang]

Will the nnimap work with agent?  Will it be possible to improve the
offline capabilities of nnimap?  Allow offline refoldering of articles?
Are there other missing offline IMAP capabilities?

Re: The new nnimap and agent?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:

> Will the nnimap work with agent?  Will it be possible to improve the
> offline capabilities of nnimap?  Allow offline refoldering of articles?
> Are there other missing offline IMAP capabilities?

One more desirable capability: article editing, and allowing it offline,
which means that the offline imap must be able to save a new version of
the message and delete and expunge the old version.

What I would use article editing for: rethreading in nnimap folders
backing mailing lists.

Re: The new nnimap and agent?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:06:50 +0200 Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> wrote: 

>>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:
>> Will the nnimap work with agent?  Will it be possible to improve the
>> offline capabilities of nnimap?  Allow offline refoldering of articles?
>> Are there other missing offline IMAP capabilities?

SB> One more desirable capability: article editing, and allowing it offline,
SB> which means that the offline imap must be able to save a new version of
SB> the message and delete and expunge the old version.

SB> What I would use article editing for: rethreading in nnimap folders
SB> backing mailing lists.

The agent handles the distinction between editing online and editing
offline, right?  The backend just has to accept the article edit in a
standard way?

Ted

Re: The new nnimap and agent?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>:

> The agent handles the distinction between editing online and editing
> offline, right?

I don't know if the agent currently has any concept of editing...?

The backends where the agent makes most sense, ie. nntp and nnimap, are
currently backends that don't support article editing.

Backends that _do_ allow editing, are eg. nnml.  That is: local mail
backends (or at least one of them).

Re: The new nnimap and agent?

[Richard Riley]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

>>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:
>
>> Will the nnimap work with agent?  Will it be possible to improve the
>> offline capabilities of nnimap?  Allow offline refoldering of articles?
>> Are there other missing offline IMAP capabilities?
>
> One more desirable capability: article editing, and allowing it offline,
> which means that the offline imap must be able to save a new version of
> the message and delete and expunge the old version.
>
> What I would use article editing for: rethreading in nnimap folders
> backing mailing lists.
>

A possible alternative : You can do all this with a local dovecot and
offlineimap I think. Well, I know as I do ;)

Re: The new nnimap and agent?

[Daniel Pittman]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
>>>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:
>>
>>> Will the nnimap work with agent?  Will it be possible to improve the
>>> offline capabilities of nnimap?  Allow offline refoldering of articles?
>>> Are there other missing offline IMAP capabilities?
>>
>> One more desirable capability: article editing, and allowing it offline,
>> which means that the offline imap must be able to save a new version of
>> the message and delete and expunge the old version.
>>
>> What I would use article editing for: rethreading in nnimap folders
>> backing mailing lists.
>
> A possible alternative : You can do all this with a local dovecot and
> offlineimap I think. Well, I know as I do ;)

...but not local IMAP group creation, and only using software that has some
serious performance problems for large mail stores, and has no upstream.

So, um, not exactly the pick of the bunch, although I use it for lack of a
better option.

        Daniel
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Re: The new nnimap and agent?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

> Will the nnimap work with agent?  Will it be possible to improve the
> offline capabilities of nnimap?  Allow offline refoldering of
> articles? 

Well, it's possible, but that's not going to be implemented
immediately... 

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: The new nnimap and agent?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Well, it's possible, but that's not going to be implemented
> immediately... 

What is not going to be implemented immediately?  Agent support?  Or
improved agent support?

Re: The new nnimap and agent?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

> What is not going to be implemented immediately?  Agent support?  Or
> improved agent support?

The latter.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: The new nnimap and agent?

[Tibor Simko]

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Steinar Bang wrote:
> Allow offline refoldering of articles?  Are there other missing
> offline IMAP capabilities?

Copy/move articles between nnimap groups would be very useful when
unplugged indeed.  Somewhat less useful, but still rather useful, would
be creation of nnimap groups.  I think this would cover all the
unplugged capabilities of Wanderlust :)
<http://www.gohome.org/wl/doc/wl_98.html#SEC98>

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