From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43854 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Stern Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: C-d heuristics Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:08:59 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <871yepo3tl.fsf@uwo.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1015971175 32392 80.91.224.249 (12 Mar 2002 22:12:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16kuVb-0008QL-00 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:12:45 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16kuT1-0004oB-00; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:09:59 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:10:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07867 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:09:46 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 3711 invoked by alias); 12 Mar 2002 22:09:30 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 3706 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2002 22:09:30 -0000 Original-Received: from mail2.cray.com (207.224.243.54) by gnus.org with SMTP; 12 Mar 2002 22:09:30 -0000 Original-Received: from relayc.wc.cray.com (relayc.wc.cray.com [207.224.230.168]) by mail2.cray.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/gw-1.13) with ESMTP id g2CM91ks003974 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:09:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from orff.wc.cray.com (orff.wc.cray.com [207.224.230.65]) by relayc.wc.cray.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/hub-1.12) with ESMTP id g2CM8xoE023500 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:08:59 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from stern@localhost) by orff.wc.cray.com (8.11.2/8.11.1/wc-client) id g2CM8xo05575; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:08:59 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: orff.wc.cray.com: stern set sender to stern@cray.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1) X-Cray-VirusStatus: clean Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43854 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43854 --=-=-= On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Dan Christensen wrote: > > Attached are two articles of a sort that I receive daily. > On the first one, if I hit C-d, I get a nice summary buffer > which uses the Authors field for the From information and > the Title field for the Subject. But on the second one > I get the From information from the (less useful) From > header, and I get no subject. Could the heuristics of > C-d be tweaked to handle the second case better? > > I haven't been able to pinpoint why one of the two is > handled better currently. I have yet another problem with C-d. I've subscribed to a mailing list with an option to receive the daily messages as a digest. In the basic *Article* buffer, I see each message/rfc822 attachment, and can buttonize them if I wish, but if I try to use C-d to view the digest, I get the following error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Couldn't request group: No articles in group lists.mscsoftware-1346-ephemeral:lists.mscsoftware-1346") signal(error ("Couldn't request group: No articles in group lists.mscsoftware-1346-ephemeral:lists.mscsoftware-1346")) error("Couldn't request group: %s" "No articles in group lists.mscsoftware-1346-ephemeral:lists.mscsoftware-1346") gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group("nnfolder+private:lists.mscsoftware-1346" (nndoc "nnfolder+private:lists.mscsoftware-1346" (nndoc-address #) (nndoc-article-type guess)) t nil nil nil ((adapt-file . "/home/users/stern/News/nnfolder+private/lists/mscsoftware/ADAPT"))) gnus-summary-enter-digest-group(nil) call-interactively(gnus-summary-enter-digest-group) -- Ted (speaking for himself, not Cray Inc.) --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=nastran.digest Content-Description: Digest email that can't be un-digested X-From-Line: bounce-msc.nastran-xxxxxxxx@lists.mscsoftware.com Sat Mar 9 21:00:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from relayb.mw.cray.com (relayb.mw.cray.com [172.31.27.12]) by gershwin.cray.com (8.12.0/8.12.0/gershwin-1.17) with ESMTP id g2A50iA4002535 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.cray.com (mail1.mw.cray.com [192.168.252.104]) by relayb.mw.cray.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/hub-1.12) with ESMTP id g2A50h1Q008110 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:00:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from caseyjones.dundee.net (caseyjones.dundee.net [216.234.106.37]) by mail1.cray.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/gw-1.13) with SMTP id g2A50fZK028445 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:00:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:00:24 -0500 Subject: msc.nastran digest: March 09, 2002 To: "msc.nastran digest recipients" From: "MSC.NASTRAN Discussion Group digest" Reply-To: "MSC.NASTRAN Discussion Group" Precedence: bulk X-Gnus-Mail-Source: directory:/home/users/stern/mail/incoming Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="--+--++-----+---------+--------+----------+--++--------++-+-----------" X-Cray-SpamScore: 1.8 X-Cray-SpamSigns: FROM_AND_TO_SAME X-Cray-VirusStatus: clean Lines: 136 Xref: orff.wc.cray.com lists.mscsoftware:1344 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 1344 Mon Mar 11 11:26:59 2002 ----+--++-----+---------+--------+----------+--++--------++-+----------- Subject: msc.nastran digest: March 09, 2002 From: "MSC.NASTRAN Discussion Group digest" Reply-To: "MSC.NASTRAN Discussion Group" Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:00:24 -0500 MSC.NASTRAN Discussion Group MSC.NASTRAN Digest for Saturday, March 09, 2002. 1. RE: Heat Transfer of Electric motor 2. RE: Heat Transfer of Electric motor --- You are currently subscribed to msc.nastran as: stern@xxxx.xxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@lists.mscsoftware.com ----+--++-----+---------+--------+----------+--++--------++-+----------- Subject: RE: Heat Transfer of Electric motor From: "sameer mohrir" Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:14:34 -0500 Reply-To: "MSC.NASTRAN Discussion Group" Hi Thanks for giving reference for heat transfer coeff. I would like to know wether heat loss is related to velocity of fluid and how it is related thanks and regards Sameer D.Mohrir ----+--++-----+---------+--------+----------+--++--------++-+----------- Subject: RE: Heat Transfer of Electric motor From: "sameer mohrir" Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 07:28:38 Reply-To: "MSC.NASTRAN Discussion Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi I will explain u my problem i am facing with analysis of electric motor. motor of following dimension ID 0.151m and OD 0.18m and length of 0.203m is modelled in FEMAP with properties of material with conductiivty of 45w/m2K (steel) Boundary condition applied as follow Nodal- inside temperature 145 deg. c and Elemental -convection 25W/m2K at 20deg.C on outside surface of motor And after solving the problem in MSC Nastran i get 136 deg.C temperature on outer surface .But as per standard outside temperature of electric motor should be 98 deg.C So please could you tell us how much velocity of air to be taken to get surface temp as 98 deg.C thanking you Sameer D.Mohrir >From: Torfinn.Tobiassen@kongsberg.com >Reply-To: "MSC.NASTRAN Discussion Group" > >To: "MSC.NASTRAN Discussion Group" >Subject: [msc.nastran] RE: Heat Transfer of Electric motor >Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:06:08 +0100 > >MSC.NASTRAN Discussion >Hi > >The heat transfer coefficient is related to the Nusselt number by the >following expression: > >h=(k/D)Nu, k=Thermal conductivity, D=diameter, Nu=Nusselt number > >Nu can be calculated from the Reynolds and Prandtl numbers. > >Pr=0.69, Re=VD/v=8.3E4, V=airspeed, D=Diameter, v=Kinematic viscosity > >Nu=0.3+((0.62Re**0.5*Pr**0.33)/((1+(0.4/Pr)**0.67)**0.25))*(1+(Re/282000 >)**0.5, 2E4 < Re < 4E5 >Nu=213.8 > >You will find the formula in a Heat Transfer textbook (E.g. Heat >Transfer by A. F. Mills) > >Best Regards > >Torfinn Tobiassen >Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace > > >-----Original Message----- >From: sameerdm@hotmail.com [ mailto:sameerdm@hotmail.com > ] >Sent: 8. mars 2002 05:21 >To: msc.nastran@lists.mscsoftware.com >Subject: [msc.nastran] RE: Heat Transfer of Electric motor > > >MSC.NASTRAN Discussion >Hi > >Thanks for your analysis can u please tell me how u have calculated hc >(heat transfer coeff) > >regards > >Sameer D.Mohrir >Pune (India) > >--- >You are currently subscribed to msc.nastran as: >torfinn.tobiassen@kongsberg.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >%%email.unsub%% > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to msc.nastran as: sameerdm@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >%%email.unsub%% _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ----+--++-----+---------+--------+----------+--++--------++-+------------- --=-=-=--