From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17252 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matt Simmons Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: many articles Date: 19 Sep 1998 13:49:01 -700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035155986 32400 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:19:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19057 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 16:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAF17653; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:22:37 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:51:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA26837 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:51:08 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from auckland.aotearoa.dom (ali-ca20-32.ix.netcom.com [209.110.228.224]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19050 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 16:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by auckland.aotearoa.dom (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA05411; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-URL: http://www.netcom.com/~simmonmt X-Face: &|zdM~9cI7q1uq~\EW'*S*":rE7Ruf/U)m!9:^^H0f7)Sd(DIB-;rJf%8QtHy|50!A< >1B\_71-&^x{|ovY@mJ;{AeMFDL[Q*o[1@nd@mZLjJAyJ7Lx`T[Q!H3>!o7~bM0S(7r fhkrufL In-Reply-To: Phil Humpherys's message of "19 Sep 1998 12:50:12 -0600" Original-Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070031 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.31) XEmacs/21.0 (Norwegian) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17252 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17252 >>>>> "Phil" == Phil Humpherys writes: Phil> I have a group with 11000 email messages in it. I'm running on a Phil> machine with 32M of ram and 128M of memory... I invoked the Phil> summary buffer of the group and it took an hour.... thrashing my Phil> machine horribly. Phil> Is it not a good idea to have so many articles in a group? It's Phil> just killed my machine... Only 11000 messages? Feh.. [simmonmt@auckland]:1:39pm:~/Mail> wc -l xemacs/.overview 21849 xemacs/.overview ... over NFS ... from an IPX. Think of it as your computer's way of telling you to go do something else for a while. =) Of course, 32M (I assume the 32M above is the chip RAM, and the 128M is swap) is basically a joke for running XEmacs (I assume the same is true for GNU Emacs) under X, to say nothing of groups with tens of thousands of messages. I have 224M, and it still kills me. Of course, it's not swapping, but it still has a mountain of data to chew through[1]. According to top, the footprint of my current XEmacs is 43M (though only 27M is swapped in at the moment). You really should go buy more RAM if you'd like to keep your sanity. Matt Footnotes: [1] Look at the size of your .overview file. Mine is 6.2M, so yours is probably around 3.1M. I don't know exactly how Gnus figures out threads, but I'd assume it's reading the entire thing in (and converting it to an internal data structure) at least once. -- Matt Simmons - simmonmt@acm.org - http://www.netcom.com/~simmonmt You know when people see a cat's litter box, they always say, "Oh, have you got a cat?" Just once I wanted to say, "No, it's for company!"