Regenerating nnml group?

Regenerating nnml group?

[Jari Aalto+list.ding]

    I was moving childs under parents when something
    locked up my emacs and I had to press C-g, but after the thread
    vanished from the Summary buffer.

    What is the standard procedure to recreated nnml group?
    - I deleted .overview file
    - I killed C-k group from *Group* buffer
    - Recreated it with G m
    - Entered group
    - Left the group
    - Exited Gnus: q
    - Exited Emacs

    And it still doesn't create .overview file and it still doesn't
    find 3 nnml articles that are in the directory.

pegasus mail.priv ls | wc -l
57
pegasus mail.priv ls -a
.   10  13  16  19  21  24  27  30  34  37  4   43  47  5   54  58  60  63  8
..  11  14  17  2   22  25  28  32  35  38  40  44  48  52  56  59  61  65  9
1   12  15  18  20  23  26  29  33  36  39  42  46  49  53  57  6   62  7

    The new gnus summary buffer has 54 articles, but articles
    52 58 62 65 are misisng: The ones that were part of 
    the thread I was reparenting. Looking into these aricles shows that 
    articles have correct Xref line

    I have run gnus-cache-generate-nov-databases and
    gnus-cache-generate-active from the summary buffer but 
    I don't see any effect.

    What next?
    jari


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Re: Regenerating nnml group?

[Kai Grossjohann]

<jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+list.ding)> writes:

  >     I have run gnus-cache-generate-nov-databases and
  >     gnus-cache-generate-active from the summary buffer but 
  >     I don't see any effect.

You want to run nnml-generate-nov-databases, too.

kai
-- 
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Re: Regenerating nnml group?

[Jari Aalto+list.ding]

|   >     I have run gnus-cache-generate-nov-databases and
|   >     gnus-cache-generate-active from the summary buffer but 
|   >     I don't see any effect.
| 
| You want to run nnml-generate-nov-databases, too.

Thank you. Nov the .overview file appeared fine in the disk,
but the Summary buffer still doesn't show the missing articles.
I don't have any more ideas why the articles won't show up
in there...

jari

Re: Regenerating nnml group?

[Dan Christensen]

<jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+list.ding)> writes:
> 
> Thank you. Nov the .overview file appeared fine in the disk,
> but the Summary buffer still doesn't show the missing articles.
> I don't have any more ideas why the articles won't show up
> in there...

My guess is that the following will help:

Turn off threading in that group (e.g. with group parameters) or
just turn it off globally.  Then enter the group.  The missing
articles should appear.  Now inspect the references headers.  I
think you'll find something wrong, e.g. a loop of references.
Edit the articles and delete the offending references.  Then
things should be fine when threading is turned back on.

Bad references headers can happen, for example, if you get confused
when using `T ^' and process mark the wrong article.

Question:  could Gnus handle bad references more gracefully?  Silently
omitting articles from the summary buffer is bad.  

Dan

-- 
Dan Christensen
jdc@math.jhu.edu

Re: Regenerating nnml group?

[Kai Grossjohann]

<jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+list.ding)> writes:

  > Thank you. Nov the .overview file appeared fine in the disk,
  > but the Summary buffer still doesn't show the missing articles.
  > I don't have any more ideas why the articles won't show up
  > in there...

Exit Gnus.
M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases RET
save all buffers
Start a new Gnus.

kai
-- 
You ate somebody? -- Just a leg. -- That's terrible! -- Not with mustard.
(Terry Pratchett: Interesting Times)

Re: Regenerating nnml group?

[Jari Aalto+list.ding]

|Tue 98-04-21 Dan Christensen <jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu> list.ding
| <jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+list.ding)> writes:
| > 
| > Thank you. Nov the .overview file appeared fine in the disk,
|
| My guess is that the following will help:
| 
| Turn off threading in that group (e.g. with group parameters) or
| just turn it off globally.  Then enter the group.  The missing
| articles should appear.  

Exactly!  Esc-0 ESC RET to enter the group, then T T to
toggle threading, and last C-u Esc-g and the articles appeared.

I was losing my faith already...thank you so much.
jari

Re: Regenerating nnml group?

[Kim-Minh Kaplan]

Dan Christensen writes:

> Question:  could Gnus handle bad references more gracefully?  Silently
> omitting articles from the summary buffer is bad.  

I believe it soon will.  This problem was recently reported by Hrvoje
Niksic and I sent a patch that seems to correct this (Hrvoje was not
definitive on wether this indeed solved the problem or not).  If you
want to give it a try (please do and report success/failure) the patch
is in message <yg47m5fu9xw.fsf@lombric.s-ip.eunet.fr>.

Kim-Minh.