* deleting messages in nndoc? @ 1997-07-09 15:34 Paul Stodghill [not found] ` <wken98f6lf.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Paul Stodghill @ 1997-07-09 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw) Has anyone put together a patch to GNUS that allows messages to be deleted from nndoc files? The reason I ask is that I have a bunch of mbox files scattered all over the place that I would like to maintain. Converting to nnml or any other backend that requires the files to be places in nnXXX-directory is not an option. nndoc allows me to read the files in place, but I would really like to manipulate the files as well. Thanks for your help. -- Paul Stodghill <stodghil@cs.cornell.edu> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/home/stodghil/home.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? [not found] ` <wken98f6lf.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> @ 1997-07-09 19:43 ` Paul Stodghill 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Paul Stodghill @ 1997-07-09 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw) Me> The reason I ask is that I have a bunch of mbox files scattered all Me> over the place that I would like to maintain. SSR> So, use nnmbox. Alright, I must be dense. Help me out here: I thought that nnmbox was used to save multiple "groups" in a single mbox file, using the X-Gnus-Newsgroup header to indicate which article was in which group. Looking at the code and the documentation, I don't see how it can be used to browse an arbitrary mbox file like the nndoc backend can. Thanks in advance. -- Paul Stodghill <stodghil@cs.cornell.edu> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/home/stodghil/home.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-09 15:34 deleting messages in nndoc? Paul Stodghill [not found] ` <wken98f6lf.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> @ 1997-07-10 5:05 ` Aharon Schkolnik 1997-07-10 12:36 ` Justin Sheehy 1997-07-10 6:56 ` Kai Grossjohann 1997-07-10 18:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 3 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-10 5:05 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding On the same topic (I think): Gnus can save articles in babyl format (gnus-summary-save-in-rmail) or in mbox format (gnus-summary-save-in-mail). I've been using babyl, and I then create a nndoc group from the file generated. My problem is that I can not delete messages from that nndoc group. I know that rmail can delete from babyl files, so why can't Gnus. Would I have any better luck if I switched to mbox format ? >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Stodghill <stodghil@CS.Cornell.EDU> writes: Paul> Has anyone put together a patch to GNUS that allows messages Paul> to be deleted from nndoc files? Paul> The reason I ask is that I have a bunch of mbox files Paul> scattered all over the place that I would like to Paul> maintain. Converting to nnml or any other backend that Paul> requires the files to be places in nnXXX-directory is not an Paul> option. nndoc allows me to read the files in place, but I Paul> would really like to manipulate the files as well. Paul> Thanks for your help. -- Paul Stodghill Paul> <stodghil@cs.cornell.edu> Paul> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/home/stodghil/home.html -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Aharon@Health.Gov.IL is great, and the Master of the house is | impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-10 5:05 ` Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-10 12:36 ` Justin Sheehy 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Aharon Schkolnik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Justin Sheehy @ 1997-07-10 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw) Aharon Schkolnik <aharon@health.gov.il> writes: > Gnus can save articles in babyl format (gnus-summary-save-in-rmail) or > in mbox format (gnus-summary-save-in-mail). I've been using babyl, and > I then create a nndoc group from the file generated. My problem is > that I can not delete messages from that nndoc group. I know that > rmail can delete from babyl files, so why can't Gnus. Would I have any > better luck if I switched to mbox format ? Um, why don't you just create an nnbabyl group? -- Justin Sheehy In a cloud bones of steel. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-10 12:36 ` Justin Sheehy @ 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Aharon Schkolnik 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Justin Sheehy ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-10 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> "Justin" == Justin Sheehy <justin@linus.mitre.org> writes: Justin> Aharon Schkolnik <aharon@health.gov.il> writes: >> Gnus can save articles in babyl format >> (gnus-summary-save-in-rmail) or in mbox format >> (gnus-summary-save-in-mail). I've been using babyl, and I then >> create a nndoc group from the file generated. My problem is >> that I can not delete messages from that nndoc group. I know >> that rmail can delete from babyl files, so why can't >> Gnus. Would I have any better luck if I switched to mbox format >> ? Justin> Um, why don't you just create an nnbabyl group? Boy, do I feel dumb. On the other hand, I think maybe I tried that once, and couldn't figure out how to do it. Anyway, I tried it again now, and I succeeded. OK, now I have an nnbabyl group (actually, I had nndoc guess groups before, and now I have nndoc babyl groups, and I'm not sure there is any difference). The thing is, that I want to DELETE messages from the group ! I can kill messages, but I can't delete them! That was the whole problem to begin with. Is it Gnus, or is it me ? -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Aharon@Health.Gov.IL is great, and the Master of the house is | impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Justin Sheehy 1997-07-11 9:30 ` Aharon Schkolnik 1997-07-10 14:48 ` Kai Grossjohann 1997-07-10 15:30 ` Hrvoje Niksic 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Justin Sheehy @ 1997-07-10 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Aharon Schkolnik <aharon@health.gov.il> writes: > OK, now I have an nnbabyl group (actually, I had nndoc guess groups > before, and now I have nndoc babyl groups, and I'm not sure there is > any difference). The thing is, that I want to DELETE messages from > the group ! I can kill messages, but I can't delete them! That was > the whole problem to begin with. Is it Gnus, or is it me ? The problem is that you don't want an nndoc group. As I said before, create an nnbabyl group. Not an nndoc group looking at a babyl file, but an nnbabyl group. -- Justin Sheehy In a cloud bones of steel. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Justin Sheehy @ 1997-07-11 9:30 ` Aharon Schkolnik 1997-07-11 10:30 ` Hrvoje Niksic 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-11 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> "Justin" == Justin Sheehy <justin@linus.mitre.org> writes: Justin> Aharon Schkolnik <aharon@health.gov.il> writes: >> OK, now I have an nnbabyl group (actually, I had nndoc guess >> groups before, and now I have nndoc babyl groups, and I'm not >> sure there is any difference). The thing is, that I want to >> DELETE messages from the group ! I can kill messages, but I >> can't delete them! That was the whole problem to begin >> with. Is it Gnus, or is it me ? Justin> The problem is that you don't want an nndoc group. Justin> As I said before, create an nnbabyl group. Justin> Not an nndoc group looking at a babyl file, but an nnbabyl Justin> group. O.K. - how EXACTLY do I create a nnbabyl group ????? TIA. Justin> -- Justin Sheehy Justin> In a cloud bones of steel. -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Aharon@Health.Gov.IL is great, and the Master of the house is | impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-11 9:30 ` Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-11 10:30 ` Hrvoje Niksic 1997-07-11 11:50 ` Aharon Schkolnik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Hrvoje Niksic @ 1997-07-11 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw) Aharon Schkolnik <aharon@health.gov.il> writes: > O.K. - how EXACTLY do I create a nnbabyl group ????? Try `G m' in *Group* buffer. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Ask not for whom the <CONTROL-G> tolls. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-11 10:30 ` Hrvoje Niksic @ 1997-07-11 11:50 ` Aharon Schkolnik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-11 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> "Hrv" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes: Hrv> Aharon Schkolnik <aharon@health.gov.il> writes: >> O.K. - how EXACTLY do I create a nnbabyl group ????? Hrv> Try `G m' in *Group* buffer. Did that. Asks for a name and a method. Gave it foo and nnbabyl. Get a group like (nnbabyl "") I guess I need to edit it (with G e). What do I need to add ? let's say my file is called /home/aharon/foo/bar TIA. Hrv> -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Hrv> Croatia Hrv> --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Hrv> Ask not for whom the <CONTROL-G> tolls. -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Aharon@Health.Gov.IL is great, and the Master of the house is | impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Aharon Schkolnik 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Justin Sheehy @ 1997-07-10 14:48 ` Kai Grossjohann 1997-07-10 15:03 ` Aharon Schkolnik ` (2 more replies) 1997-07-10 15:30 ` Hrvoje Niksic 2 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Kai Grossjohann @ 1997-07-10 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> Aharon Schkolnik writes: Aharon> [...] The thing is, that I want to DELETE messages from the Aharon> group ! I can kill messages, but I can't delete them! That Aharon> was the whole problem to begin with. Is it Gnus, or is it me Aharon> ? What are you trying to do to delete a message? Did you type B DEL? Did you type d? Did you type C-k? Did you type E? A message can be marked - unread (" "): fresh message, always show - read ("r"): message has been seen, but keep it and show when user asks for it - expirable ("E"): delete message from disks after expire time (default is 7 weeks) at the next expiry run (default is that quitting a group with q runs expiry) - ticked ("!"): keep message, always show it Reading a message usually marks it as read. Use key d. If auto-expire is turned on for the group (via a group parameter or the variable gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups), reading a message automatically marks it expirable. To explicitly mark a message expirable, type E. If total-expire is turned on for a group (via group parameter or variable gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups), messages that are marked read are also expirable! To explicitly mark a message as ticked, use ! or u. kai -- A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-10 14:48 ` Kai Grossjohann @ 1997-07-10 15:03 ` Aharon Schkolnik 1997-07-14 21:59 ` Danny Siu 1997-07-14 22:35 ` Hrvoje Niksic 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-10 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> "Kai" == Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@ls6.cs.uni-dortmund.de> writes: >>>>> Aharon Schkolnik writes: Aharon> [...] The thing is, that I want to DELETE messages from Aharon> the group ! I can kill messages, but I can't delete them! Aharon> That was the whole problem to begin with. Is it Gnus, or Aharon> is it me ? Kai> What are you trying to do to delete a message? Did you type Kai> B DEL? Did you type d? Did you type C-k? Did you type E? B DEL I get: The current newsgroup does not support article deletion. I made the assumption that that means that expiration won't work either. Kai> A message can be marked Kai> - unread (" "): fresh message, always show - read ("r"): Kai> message has been seen, but keep it and show when user asks Kai> for it - expirable ("E"): delete message from disks after Kai> expire time (default is 7 weeks) at the next expiry run Kai> (default is that quitting a group with q runs expiry) - Kai> ticked ("!"): keep message, always show it Kai> Reading a message usually marks it as read. Use key d. Kai> If auto-expire is turned on for the group (via a group Kai> parameter or the variable gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups), Kai> reading a message automatically marks it expirable. Kai> To explicitly mark a message expirable, type E. Kai> If total-expire is turned on for a group (via group parameter Kai> or variable gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups), messages that Kai> are marked read are also expirable! Kai> To explicitly mark a message as ticked, use ! or u. Kai> kai -- A large number of young women don't trust men with Kai> beards. (BFBS Radio) -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Aharon@Health.Gov.IL is great, and the Master of the house is | impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-10 14:48 ` Kai Grossjohann 1997-07-10 15:03 ` Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-14 21:59 ` Danny Siu 1997-07-14 22:35 ` Hrvoje Niksic 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Danny Siu @ 1997-07-14 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw) Kai Grossjohann writes: >>>>>> Aharon Schkolnik writes: Aharon> [...] The thing is, that I want to DELETE messages from the group Aharon> ! I can kill messages, but I can't delete them! That was the Aharon> whole problem to begin with. Is it Gnus, or is it me ? Kai> What are you trying to do to delete a message? Did you type B DEL? Kai> Did you type d? Did you type C-k? Did you type E? Kai> A message can be marked Kai> - unread (" "): fresh message, always show read ("r"): message has Kai> been seen, but keep it and show when user asks for it expirable Kai> ("E"): delete message from disks after expire time (default is 7 Kai> weeks) at the next expiry run (default is that quitting a group with Kai> q runs expiry) ticked ("!"): keep message, always show it Kai> Reading a message usually marks it as read. Use key d. Kai> If auto-expire is turned on for the group (via a group parameter or Kai> the variable gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups), reading a message Kai> automatically marks it expirable. Kai> To explicitly mark a message expirable, type E. Kai> If total-expire is turned on for a group (via group parameter or Kai> variable gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups), messages that are marked Kai> read are also expirable! Kai> To explicitly mark a message as ticked, use ! or u. Should we put Kai's clear and concise explanation about read marks in the manual? -- ^..^ '/..\" ( oo ) )~ m( oo )m ,, ,, /=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ | Danny Dick-Fung Siu http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~dsiu | | Reference System Group http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~dsiu | | Adobe Systems Incorporated E-Mail:<dsiu@alumni.eecs.berkeley.edu> | | "What do you expect from a <dsiu@leland.stanford.edu> | | Cal. Berkeley grad.?" <dsiu@adobe.com> | \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-10 14:48 ` Kai Grossjohann 1997-07-10 15:03 ` Aharon Schkolnik 1997-07-14 21:59 ` Danny Siu @ 1997-07-14 22:35 ` Hrvoje Niksic 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Hrvoje Niksic @ 1997-07-14 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw) Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@charly.cs.uni-dortmund.de> writes: > - unread (" "): fresh message, always show > - read ("r"): message has been seen, but keep it and show when user > asks for it > - expirable ("E"): delete message from disks after expire time > (default is 7 weeks) at the next expiry run (default is that > quitting a group with q runs expiry) > - ticked ("!"): keep message, always show it - dormant ("?"): keep message, show it together with the followups An important note is that (as Justin once put it) ticked and dormant articles are just a fancy way of saying "unread". -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);} ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Aharon Schkolnik 1997-07-10 14:39 ` Justin Sheehy 1997-07-10 14:48 ` Kai Grossjohann @ 1997-07-10 15:30 ` Hrvoje Niksic [not found] ` <nzpruj5wl.fsf@healdb.matat.health.gov.il> 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Hrvoje Niksic @ 1997-07-10 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw) Aharon Schkolnik <aharon@health.gov.il> writes: > The thing is, that I want to DELETE messages from the group ! I can > kill messages, but I can't delete them! That was the whole problem > to begin with. Is it Gnus, or is it me ? Or is it not reading the manual? Try `B DEL'. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Speak softly and carry a +6 two-handed sword. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? [not found] ` <kig90zdvmkn.fsf@jagor.srce.hr> @ 1997-07-11 12:01 ` Aharon Schkolnik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-11 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> "Hrv" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes: Hrv> Aharon Schkolnik <aharon@health.gov.il> writes: >> >>>>> "Hrv" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes: >> Hrv> Aharon Schkolnik <aharon@health.gov.il> writes: >> >> Let's say my babyl file is in /home/aharon/bab/a.b I type G >> m, >> and it asks me for a name and a method. >> Hrv> Hmm... does it ask for an address, or something like that? >> >> >> Nope. Just name and method. Hrv> Then change `nnbabyl-mbox-file' in the group parameters to Hrv> the file name "/home/aharon/bab/a.b" and it should, Hrv> hopefully, work. Now I have: ;;; Editing the select method for `nnbabyl:foo2'. ;; Type `C-c C-c' after you've finished editing. (nnbabyl "" (nnbabyl-mbox-file "/usr/users/aharon/News/x.x")) But, when I try to open it, I get: Couldn't request group nnbabyl:foo2: No such group: foo2 Hrv> -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Hrv> Croatia Hrv> --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Hrv> "A Real Programmer's code can awe with its fiendish Hrv> brilliance, even as its crockishness appalls." -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Aharon@Health.Gov.IL is great, and the Master of the house is | impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-09 15:34 deleting messages in nndoc? Paul Stodghill [not found] ` <wken98f6lf.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> 1997-07-10 5:05 ` Aharon Schkolnik @ 1997-07-10 6:56 ` Kai Grossjohann 1997-07-10 18:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 3 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Kai Grossjohann @ 1997-07-10 6:56 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> Paul Stodghill writes: Paul> Has anyone put together a patch to GNUS that allows messages Paul> to be deleted from nndoc files? nndoc is read-only, but there is nnfolder. You might need to make symlinks from your ~/Mail directory to your files, or you might need to set the nnfolder-directory or nnmail-directory or something variable to the right value in the group parameters. Or something. kai -- A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: deleting messages in nndoc? 1997-07-09 15:34 deleting messages in nndoc? Paul Stodghill ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 1997-07-10 6:56 ` Kai Grossjohann @ 1997-07-10 18:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 3 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-07-10 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw) Paul Stodghill <stodghil@CS.Cornell.EDU> writes: > Has anyone put together a patch to GNUS that allows messages to be deleted > from nndoc files? The main reason that nndoc can't delete messages is that nndoc isn't supposed to alter the contents of the documents it reads. Since it can't add new headers to keep an article-to-number mapping consistant, articles won't have consistent article numbers if we allow article deletion. However, this is only important for solid nndoc groups. There's really no reason why nndoc shouldn't be able to edit ephemeral nndoc groups, since the article-to-number mapping is rather up in the air in any case. So, deletion is (in principle) possible, although it would take rather a lot of programming to make nndoc able to do that stuff. Each and every document format would need its own message deletion/insertion function, which can get rather hairy in some cases. So I don't really think it's worth it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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