From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44731 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Russ Allbery Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Copyright/license issues (was: [COMMIT] sign & encrypt changes) Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 14:20:49 -0700 Organization: The Eyrie Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87adrjse42.fsf@alum.wpi.edu> <87u1pqbsl3.fsf@alum.wpi.edu> <87bsby4oy8.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87lmb2336u.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87662631te.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87wuum1lwl.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3cx9mgs1.fsf@mail.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020720125 10292 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2002 21:22:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 21:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174pvo-0002ft-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 23:22:05 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 174pv0-0000HJ-00; Mon, 06 May 2002 16:21:14 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 06 May 2002 16:21:30 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04321 for ; Mon, 6 May 2002 16:21:18 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 23130 invoked by alias); 6 May 2002 21:20:58 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 23125 invoked from network); 6 May 2002 21:20:57 -0000 Original-Received: from windlord.stanford.edu (171.64.13.23) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 May 2002 21:20:57 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 7507 invoked by uid 50); 6 May 2002 21:20:49 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Wes Hardaker's message of "Mon, 06 May 2002 14:14:57 -0700") Original-Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090005 (Oort Gnus v0.05) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, sparc-sun-solaris2.6) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44731 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44731 Wes Hardaker writes: > AFS is a pain sometimes, but always worth it (IMHO) in large scale > deployments. A side effect of even being able to do a 'vos release' is > having a more difficult installation process for certain packages. I > actually have heard DCE handles this better but I haven't played withit. I adore AFS. We manage a site-wide installation of over 500 packages with just one and a half FTEs; there's no way that I could do that without AFS. We tried to use DFS back when it was first being pushed by Transarc and had it fail horribly on us. Incredibly complex, unstable, slow, and difficult to work with. We abandoned any attempt to switch and never looked back. AFS has its quirks, but it's still head and shoulders above anything else that's available in terms of enterprise file systems. -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)