From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/41009 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Russ Allbery Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Additional info on XEmacs 21.4.6 crashes Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:51:18 -0800 Organization: The Eyrie Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176476 3947 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:01:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 22022 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2001 22:56:26 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2001 22:56:26 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16JjNF-0007Hc-00; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 16:51:41 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 27 Dec 2001 16:51:30 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA18794 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 16:51:21 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 21527 invoked by alias); 27 Dec 2001 22:51:25 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 21522 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2001 22:51:24 -0000 Original-Received: from windlord.stanford.edu (171.64.13.23) by gnus.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 2001 22:51:24 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 566 invoked by uid 50); 27 Dec 2001 22:51:18 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, sparc-sun-solaris2.6) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41009 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41009 Vin Shelton queried the xemacs-beta list about the intermittant crashes that I was reporting with Oort and XEmacs 21.4.6, and Stephen Turnbull replied with this. I figured I'd forward it back here so that it gets into the mailing list archives for anyone doing a search. (I have to admit that the documentation of internals in Gnus has bothered me in the past as well; the user manual is excellent, but if one has to dig beneath that it's often pretty hard to figure out what's going on.) -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) To: Vin Shelton Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Russ Allbery ] Anyone using Oort with XEmacs 21.4.6? From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 27 Dec 2001 11:55:33 +0900 >>>>> "vin" == Vin Shelton writes: vin> Has anyone here seen problems like this? I'm not running vin> oort, so I don't see this. This happens in all recent Gnus, I'm not sure what the real cause is, it's definitely a bug in XEmacs, and you can work around by telling Gnus not to byte compile on the fly. I forget how this is done, though, and as is typical in Gnus the documentation of `gnus-compile' is, er, minimal. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.