From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33199 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Russ Allbery Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: emacs21-branch (Re: ognus) Date: 04 Nov 2000 17:15:27 -0800 Organization: The Eyrie Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <2nwvetu80i.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> <20001028192205.7987BDBA78@tux.gnu.franken.de> <20001029184843.3207BDBAC8@tux.gnu.franken.de> <200010302253.WAA08203@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200011021725.RAA12721@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200011031914.TAA14435@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169348 23806 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:02:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57BED049A for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:15:58 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAB01895; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:15:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 04 Nov 2000 19:15:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01863 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:15:04 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from windlord.stanford.edu (windlord.Stanford.EDU [171.64.13.23]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 631BAD049A for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:15:28 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (qmail 20087 invoked by uid 50); 5 Nov 2000 01:15:27 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Per Abrahamsen's message of "04 Nov 2000 16:04:38 +0100" Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33199 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33199 Per Abrahamsen writes: > Actually, quite a lot of effort is required to make the development > process "feel" open/transparent to outsiders. At least, that is the > impression I get from the people who have changed existing software > projects (Mozilla, GCC, GDB) to make them appear more open. They also > claim the effort is well spend, in terms of recruiting developers. It's a lot of effort to set up. There is a bunch of automation that you can do initially that makes it not too bad to maintain, though, apart from the increasing number of questions about unstable sources. Setting up read-only CVS access and setting up some loginfo scripts so that all CVS commit messages result in an e-mail message (and ideally point to CVSweb diffs) really does wonders towards letting people feel like they know what's happening behind the scenes. -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)