From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/31070 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Russ Allbery Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Python Emacs (was Re: The .. rule) Date: 18 May 2000 16:18:40 -0700 Organization: The Eyrie Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <00May12.111709edt.115683@gateway.intersys.com> <200005121547.RAA12153@marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <200005172027.WAA16517@marcy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <00May17.163721edt.115620@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035167521 11947 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:32:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB52D051E for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 19:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAB19266; Thu, 18 May 2000 18:19:16 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 18 May 2000 18:18:34 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22492 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 18:18:25 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from windlord.stanford.edu (windlord.Stanford.EDU [171.64.12.23]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 92292D051E for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 19:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 22498 invoked by uid 50); 18 May 2000 23:18:40 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Brian Edmonds's message of "17 May 2000 14:04:08 -0700" Original-Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) XEmacs/21.1 (Biscayne) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31070 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31070 Brian Edmonds writes: > Or there are some of us who think C++ sucks, but have serious trouble > thinking in Lisp. Learning Perl was a no-brainer for me, but every time > I go to hack anything more difficult than a setq in my Emacs config I'm > tearing my hair out. For whatever it's worth my brain just doesn't work > in the Lisp way. That's interesting, because I learned LISP before I learned Perl and while I know Perl far better and much prefer it, I tend to write very LISP-like Perl a lot of the time (heavy on map, grep, and list manipulation and transforms). Perl's actually pretty friendly to a LISP-like way of thinking, far more so than most imperative languages, given that it supports closures, application of functions to lists, and the like. -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)