From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43244 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Katsumi Yamaoka's CVS update of gnus/lisp (73 files) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:50:45 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035178367 16539 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:32:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 23554 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2002 02:53:03 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2002 02:53:03 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16e5nq-0006FG-00; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:51:18 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:51:18 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA00271 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:51:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 23509 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 2002 02:50:58 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 23504 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2002 02:50:58 -0000 Original-Received: from groundpoundrecords.com (207.228.244.150) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 Feb 2002 02:50:58 -0000 Original-Received: from yamaoka@jpl.org by groundpoundrecords.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g1M2ovN29777 Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:50:57 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Benjamin Rutt X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2.50 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uLYg7AMiFFWVB192MSmDEsJjCOk= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43244 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43244 >>>>> In >>>>> Benjamin Rutt wrote: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >> We only have to do just the right thing. > Your opinion on what the right thing is just that, an opinion. Yes, that is my opinion, developers don't have to follow me. :-) > Without code conventions, it is every gnus developer's right to > (setq indent-tabs-mode nil) > in emacs-lisp-mode. Your changes were so massive that it looked like > gnus code conventions had materialized. Evidently that is not the > case. Rather, it looks like one person's opinion of the "right thing" > spread throughout all the source code. I'm never a fascist, I'll accept a majority opinion. I think removing garbages and reducing file size are good things, but if many people don't consider so, I'll never do that in future. I know some people have changed `tab-width' and `tab-stop-list' globally. They are free to do anything. However, since almost all Gnus files use tabs (and possibly following spaces, of course) for the indentation and it seems that they assume the value of `tab-width' is eight, modifying `tab-width' is against their own interests. If it is correct, using only spaces for the indentation has only an effect on increasing file size. I think so and I've done those changes. -- Katsumi Yamaoka