From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47510 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: posting-charset abolition Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 21:33:21 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4n3cqmy93k.fsf@benko.bwh.harvard.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036154074 25204 80.91.224.249 (1 Nov 2002 12:34:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 187b0S-0006YC-00 for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:34:32 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 187azn-0001zY-00; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:33:51 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:34:35 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA22565 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:34:20 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 24535 invoked by alias); 1 Nov 2002 12:33:30 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24528 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2002 12:33:30 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO mars.web-hosting.com) (207.228.244.150) by gnus.org with SMTP; 1 Nov 2002 12:33:30 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([207.228.245.242]) by mars.web-hosting.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id gA1CXSa19398 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:33:29 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.4 (Military Intelligence, sparc-sun-solaris2.6) X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( Cancel-Lock: sha1:kFmeb0OKCc8CNVTbadcljSi92is= X-Hashcash: 021101:ding@gnus.org:7eaca5c1de1b3b27 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47510 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47510 >>>>> In >>>>> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >>>>>> In >>>>>> Jesper Harder wrote: >> What do you think about this fix? > Wow! That's just the thing, maybe. Since I didn't have time to > look at a code recently, I will confirm your change later and > use it. Thanks a lot! I've confirmed that it is perfect. I've just committed it. However, the variable gnus-group-posting-charset-alist became important in another viewpoint in Japanese news articles. Hey Japanese folks, look at this! In GNUS v3 or v4 era, posting 8-bit news articles was considered to be evil in Japanese newsgroups because newsreaders or news servers were not supporting it. Though it won't be in such a condition today, 8-bit news articles still tend to be base64 encoded. If you don't desire to send 8-bit news articles and there is an opportunity of writing katakana-jisx0201 (may be called as hankaku-katakana) or any other special characters, the following setting is also effective even now: (eval-after-load "gnus-msg" '(if (boundp 'gnus-group-posting-charset-alist) (let ((news (assq 'message-this-is-news gnus-group-posting-charset-alist))) (if news (setcdr news '(nil nil)))))) -- Katsumi Yamaoka