From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47504 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: posting-charset abolition Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:43:52 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4n3cqmy93k.fsf@benko.bwh.harvard.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036118679 2644 80.91.224.249 (1 Nov 2002 02:44:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 02:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 187Rna-0000gW-00 for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 03:44:38 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 187RnK-0000eK-00; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:44:22 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:45:08 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20961 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:44:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 26976 invoked by alias); 1 Nov 2002 02:44:01 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 26971 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2002 02:44:00 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO mars.web-hosting.com) (207.228.244.150) by gnus.org with SMTP; 1 Nov 2002 02:44:00 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([207.228.245.242]) by mars.web-hosting.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id gA12hxg22583 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:43:59 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.4 (Military Intelligence (RC3), sparc-sun-solaris2.6) X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( Cancel-Lock: sha1:cfXV/ZIG2/sM5zpCONq6XbDVZ+E= X-Hashcash: 021101:ding@gnus.org:1be6fbe0de960fc1 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47504 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47504 >>>>> In <4n3cqmy93k.fsf@benko.bwh.harvard.edu> >>>>> Ted Zlatanov wrote: > I think the simplest programmatic solution is to scan the message > buffer right before sending, when it's already encoded, and add the > CTE: 8bit header if any 8-bit characters are detected. Yes. It can be done by using message-header-hook or something. However, though I haven't seen the source code in details yet, I think there is a more smart solution. Because, even if I use the following codes to remove CTE:8, CTE is added if necessary. (eval-after-load "gnus-msg" '(if (boundp 'gnus-group-posting-charset-alist) (let ((news (assq 'message-this-is-news gnus-group-posting-charset-alist))) (if news (setcdr news '(nil nil)))))) > But I still > think this is unnecessary work for other than aesthetic reasons, as > very few MTAs today do 7bit CTE, and setting the header to 8bit is > harmless to 7bit data. To be sure, it is right. However, would you allow me if it is achieved with a trifling change? > I don't understand the statement about "vicious MUAs rampant." Possibly my talk was too acrimoniously. Never mind please. -- Katsumi Yamaoka