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List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85814 Archived-At: Help, I am suddenly loosing old mails - they are deleted instead of expired (for some 3 weeks now). I am on Gnus v5.13. I am not aware of any changes in my configuration. Possibly, I may have experimented with a nnvirtual group (nnvirtual "^nnfolder\\+mail.*$") The log in the *Message* buffer seems a bit suspicious (just a snippet for one of the groups with C-c C-M-x gnus-group-expire-all-groups) - where comes the "Deleting articles..." from? Is this correct? Expiring articles in nnfolder+mail:noreply@ecoapwebsite.eu... Deleting articles...done Expiring articles in nnfolder+mail:noreply@ecoapwebsite.eu...done My relevant entries since always are: (setq-default nnmail-expiry-wait-function (lambda (group) (cond ((string= group "spam.mail") 5) ((string= group "root@sampling") 5) (t 30))) gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups "nnfolder\\+mail:.*" gnus-mark-copied-or-moved-articles-as-expirable t nnmail-expiry-target 'nnmail-fancy-expiry-target nnmail-fancy-expiry-targets '(("xref" "spam\\.mail:[01-9]" "nnml+expired:spam.%Y") (to-from "root@sampling" "nnml+expired:sampling-root-%Y") (to-from "et\\.com" "nnml+expired:et-%Y") (to-from "ws\\.com" "nnml+expired:ws-%Y") (to-from ".*" "nnml+expired:other-%Y")))) (setq-default gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") gnus-secondary-select-methods `((nntp "news.gmane.org") (nnfolder "mail" [...] (nnfolder-get-new-mail t) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry nil)) (nnml "expired" [...] (nnml-get-new-mail nil) (nnml-inhibit-expiry t)) And, expiry of spam and sampling-root continuous to work as expected, but the (important!) mails in the other groups in nnfolder+mail:* get lost!