From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87299 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynbech Christian Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: two server which I did not add Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 14:35:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87twcqix0u.fsf@yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476155741 6486 195.159.176.226 (11 Oct 2016 03:15:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 03:15:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: To: "Jorge A. 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Alfaro-Murillo's message of "Wed, 5 Oct 2016 12:24:49 -0400") X-Originating-IP: [10.48.99.19] X-ClientProxiedBy: C105S135VM025.eu.tieto.com (10.34.8.67) To C105S135VM015.eu.tieto.com (10.34.8.53) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA12TW0gUURjHO3s9bp4aZ931ONlt8CHKK2UpaVk+dEMTepCuOuq0u7m6286u ZlTeKO0CJZmVYkVkDwplYpn0YK4ZVJQoSghdFIPuQimJENE5u7M29vbN73++8/++/8xANdsL OWgrcouuIsHO6wwaAw8Tou/UT2fFXb4bnzjeUaFNbP8zqE9Vbe05dWjrYOc9XaZqjyE5X7Tb ikVX7IYcg7X/doPG2cwe+TlyUlUOri84A4IgZtbgay031WeAAbLMFMB93x5r/Q+3AG56eV5F T+mYBDzUcllL61AmBTd2jWlorWaM+FX1W0BrI7MKz7z4qaM1y3hwzZ8hX6+GicTj34cJhzCI ceLur5kUI2YFPv+0SU9rE5OGK+9MqPw8BD+7+kG+HuOeT5/U/itX4Ncjk1r/0EtxRd1ptb+2 4I9nO/UXQEiDor1B0X4DqFrAQjE3Ny4pxm0T3Y6YPEdhOyAhVvW3GR+Cmro0L2Ag4INRaO10 FqsViqXSQi8ogCrehD6XErQg15FfahUka7bLYxclPhTZIn5lsWgW53rsBTyH9taRw8ZZWiSW SHbRTd4avwStySBa2KwmeSSnLc/m8EjZHpfdCzBUk2uddACUL5QeFV0Ov5kXLIIaPgylXyQS YxHcYoEoOkVXQC2BkMdo/SWihrhEi3jkoM3uDsikz+zrUyq+YRejc/uIYFYKinmXo90HiMwp 5f9HVsEgL7DAYDL3RmqPJKdQKNkssrURXaE0OEB9tuGojkI2ABWWixGmEZkD0ly75+AwF4Zi acAMPWH1FM1uyZlRZP2XLHahQqBuXARaUky4ScH/GXLLUBjtCleocz2/gDzyWRhR List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87299 Archived-At: Saving messages locally can seem a bit unnecessary but so many things can go wrong when sending emails so I like to know that I always have the original email at hand. An alternative to saving sent messages (whether within gnus or on an imap server) is to use the BCC field, for instance by setting: (setq message-default-mail-headers (format "Bcc: %s\n" user-mail-address)) On top of getting a copy of the sent email (and having it appear inside the message thread), you get it through the email system which slightly increases ones confidence in the email having gone out. -- Christian ----------------------- On Wed, Oct 05 2016, Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo wrote: Rainer M Krug writes: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > >> On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 11:50:50 +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote: >>> I have the following two server in gnus, in addition to a local >>> imap and gmane, which I have no idea where they come from and if I >>> need them. >>> ,---- >>>| {nnfolder:archive} (opened) >>>| {nndraft:} (opened) >>> `---- >>> My questions are: >>> 1) how did they get here, are they part of the default setup of >>> gnus? >>> 2) what are they used for? >>> 3) how can I get rid of them if they are not needed (I assume that >>> nndraft might be useful?)? >> >> The nnfolder:archive method will be created when a user uses Gnus >> for the first time (w/o ~/.newsrc.eld, ~/.gnus.el) for archiving >> sent messages. See: (info "(gnus)Archived Messages") >> >> To remove it, quit Gnus, edit the ~/.newsrc.eld file and delete the >> ("archive" ...) portion in the (setq gnus-server-alist...) section. >> Be extremely careful! To turn on the show-paren-mode is >> recommended. The archive keeps the messages you have sent. Because my imap keeps a copy of the sent messages, I do not need a local copy. I think I removed it just by setting gnus-message-archive-method to nil. >> The draft: method is used for handling draft messages to send. I >> don't know alternative way of it, so never remove it. See: (info >> "(gnus)Drafts") > > Thanks for the info - as they are more or less part of gnus, I'll > just leave them where they are. Yes, the draft has messages that you are editing but haven't sent yet. Best, -- Jorge.