From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/10265 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sudish Joseph Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Should archive server add Message-IDs to the cache? Date: 18 Mar 1997 09:27:19 -0500 Sender: sj@atreides.eng.mindspring.net Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.105) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035150165 23411 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:42:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA17770 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:43:20 -0800 Original-Received: from atreides.eng.mindspring.net (atreides.eng.mindspring.net [207.69.183.11]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:28:11 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 22695 invoked by uid 52477); 18 Mar 1997 14:27:40 -0000 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: Kai Grossjohann's message of 18 Mar 1997 13:55:23 +0100 Original-Lines: 41 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.25/XEmacs 20.1 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10265 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10265 Kai Grossjohann writes: > I don't use archive servers, but I feel that the copy that's *not* in > the archive server should be considered the "original" and that the > copy in the archive server should be considered the "duplicate". This > would mean that you won't be surprised about articles disappearing. The archive server should have nothing to do with duplicate detection. Those messages are stored for a separate purpose, outside of your normal message reading. They aren't normal messages, at least the way I use them. > OTOH, though, deleting messages in the archive server isn't really > what you want, either, since then it wouldn't be an archive any > longer. Nothing gets deleted from the archive server. Quite the opposite, it'll contain the only copy of your message in the gnus system (other than the one in mail.duplicates). This breaks stuff like threading, "^", etc. in mailing list groups. I also find myself have to go and check the archive and duplicates groups to see if the message even made it through. Here's the picture. rgnus gnus-5.4.22+ (and possibly earlier) ----- ------------ 1 copy in archive 1 copy in archive 1 copy in list group 1 copy in duplicates Also, any funnction/backend/hook/whathaveyou that uses nnml-request-accept-article from now on will add bogus entries into the duplicate cache. I guess the easy workaround for me is to turn off gnus' duplicate detection and rely on external filters to weed out duplicates. Eww, -Sudish