From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/9232 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sudish Joseph Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: NoCeM flakiness in 0.74 and higher Date: 17 Dec 1996 13:36:40 -0500 Sender: sj@atreides.mindspring.com Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035149287 17217 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:28:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:28:07 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA27785 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:53:48 -0800 Original-Received: from atreides.mindspring.com (qmailr@atreides.mindspring.com [204.180.142.236]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:36:40 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 9432 invoked by uid 52477); 17 Dec 1996 18:36:41 -0000 Original-To: The Ding List Original-Lines: 59 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.76/XEmacs 20.0 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:9232 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:9232 It's trying to fetch the entire spool each time (well, I kill it at the start). My News/NoCeM/active has: (setq gnus-nocem-active (quote ( ("news.admin.net-abuse.announce" (10845 . 11363)) ("alt.nocem.misc" (25378 . 26700))))) news.lists.filters isn't in there coz I just upgraded to 0.76 in the hopes of getting proper treatment for alt.nocem.misc (which, BTW, shouldn't be checked anymore, right? Or maybe not, I haven't been following this stuff.) No dice, 0.76 just tried to get everything again. [atreides]% telnet news nntp [...] group news.lists.filters 211 273 5 306 news.lists.filters group alt.nocem.misc 211 1122 25533 26811 alt.nocem.misc [...] Here's where I stopped gnus: Checking article 25608 in alt.nocem.misc for NoCeM... Good signature from user "AutoMoose1 (Automated Cancelmoose)". Verifying... It'd been running for a longish while before I killed it. I wathced it start on news.lists.filters, said "yay, no more alt.nocem.misc", went for a smoke to give it time to scan the 250+ articles in n.l.f and came back to find it'd finished that and gone back to the a.n.m flakiness. This is pretty ugly. I have to set g-u-nocem to nil to see new news. It'd be neat if there was an explicit -batch interface to NoCeM, expecially since the gnus-daemon stuff has never worked for me in XEmacs. I've been meaning to see why, never had the time. While I'm whining about stuff I'm not fixing/coding myself, I might as well mention that having the nocem stuff work off the scoring mechanism would be tres cool. In particular, it'd be neat if one could have an alist that let you specify the type of score entry you want generated for articles that're being eliminated by nocem. A followup entry (I.e., low score on references) would be the most useful. (Subject scores are less useful, given that a spammer could well choose a subject line that matches useful articles.) An alist might be useful if we could come up with a reasonably concise description of a nocem-issuer that combined newsgroup context. Something that allowed statements like "issue followup scoredowns for nocems issued for articles in groups that match this regexp and issued by this person". Maybe not very useful. A single option allowing score type selection would be very useful, though. Bleagh, apologies for the rambling. -Sudish