From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/9690 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sudish Joseph Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus v5.4.4 is released Date: 28 Jan 1997 16:14:29 -0500 Sender: sj@atreides.mindspring.com Message-ID: References: <199701272113.QAA03158@swapsdvlp02.ny-swaps-develop.ml.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035149674 19939 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:34:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA27043 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:31:54 -0800 Original-Received: from atreides.mindspring.com (atreides.mindspring.com [204.180.142.236]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:14:36 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 17635 invoked by uid 52477); 28 Jan 1997 21:14:29 -0000 Original-To: The Ding List In-Reply-To: Rich Pieri's message of 28 Jan 1997 10:03:28 -0500 Original-Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.82/XEmacs 20.0 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:9690 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:9690 Rich Pieri writes: > I think it should be clear that removing something simple and > replacing it with something relatively complicated and thoroughly > undocumented (not even a "we removed such-and-such; here is how to > do the same thing now") is a really bad idea. Per seems to have gone to great lengths to make sure that customize does not interfere with the person who likes to set stuff in .emacs/.gnus. I.e., you do not have to use it, set gnus-visual in your .gnus if you like. The only thing lacking here is the gnus-visual doc string, but that's been that way for a long time and is entirely independent of customize. Since it's a beta list, you might consider RTFS. Customize is a good thing; but it cannot help those who will not help themselves. -Sudish