From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/10019 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sudish Joseph Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Preformatting features of Emacs Date: 28 Feb 1997 17:22:41 -0500 Sender: sj@atreides.eng.mindspring.net Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.101) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035149955 21894 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:39:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA05953 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:35:31 -0800 Original-Received: from atreides.eng.mindspring.net (atreides.eng.mindspring.net [207.69.183.11]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:23:12 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 30726 invoked by uid 52477); 28 Feb 1997 22:22:41 -0000 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: Paul Franklin's message of 28 Feb 1997 12:37:13 -0800 Original-Lines: 47 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.82/XEmacs 20.0 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10019 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10019 Paul Franklin writes: > Hmm. I've been really happy with filladapt. It seems to do a better > job than either gnus-article-fill-cited-article or > message-fill-yanked-message, but it only does one paragraph at a > time. The real win is that it's smart enough to notice changes in > citation levels and treat them as paragraph boundaries even if there's > no line separating them. The problem is that it's paragraph-oriented. It craps out when fed a region containing blank lines, by converting the blank line preceding a paragraph into a space(!). Try putting the region across the next 3 lines and filling it. This is paragraph a. This is paragraph b. This is paragraph c. This gets filled as: This is paragraph a. This is paragraph b. This is paragraph c. This makes "W w" an ugly transform for most messages I read. This is because it wasn't a paragraph to begin with, of course. I have a patch that "fixes" this, but Kyle Jones sez we shouldn't be calling it that way in the first place. > Will changing gnus-article-fill-cited-article and > message-fill-yanked-message to use filladapt if it's present address > your concerns? If not, could you be more specific as to why this is > insufficient? IMO, The Right Thing to do is exactly what Per stated. His cite stuff is far, far, far, far (etc, you get the idea) more knowledgeable about mail and news citation boundaries (which is what we need, not paragraphs in the usual sense) than filladapt is. It can mark such regions (I expect it already does this) and stuff like "W w" should be iterating over such regions and feeding each region separately to the fill functions. -Sudish