Hi, the following change: 2002-03-01 ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> * message.el (message-fix-before-sending): Check illegible text. breaks something and prevents users from sending messages containing accentuated characters, complaining about illegible text found in the buffer. Why exactly was this introduced? -- Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> it's a miracle! -- http://www.orebokech.com/
Hi, the following change: 2002-03-01 ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> * message.el (message-fix-before-sending): Check illegible text. breaks something and prevents users from sending messages containing accentuated characters, complaining about illegible text found in the buffer. Why exactly was this introduced? -- Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> it's a miracle! -- http://www.orebokech.com/
Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> the following change:
>
> 2002-03-01 ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu>
>
> * message.el (message-fix-before-sending): Check illegible text.
>
> breaks something and prevents users from sending messages containing
> accentuated characters, complaining about illegible text found in the
> buffer. Why exactly was this introduced?
It is to prevent users to send eight bit control characters. It should
not complain accentuated characters, at least, it didn't when I send
one. Could you post what returns when pressing `C-u C-x =' on an
accentuated characters in the message buffer?
Test: ä
ShengHuo
Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> the following change:
>
> 2002-03-01 ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu>
>
> * message.el (message-fix-before-sending): Check illegible text.
>
> breaks something and prevents users from sending messages containing
> accentuated characters, complaining about illegible text found in the
> buffer. Why exactly was this introduced?
It is to prevent users to send eight bit control characters. It should
not complain accentuated characters, at least, it didn't when I send
one. Could you post what returns when pressing `C-u C-x =' on an
accentuated characters in the message buffer?
Test: ä
ShengHuo
ShengHuo ZHU writes: > It is to prevent users to send eight bit control characters. It should > not complain accentuated characters, at least, it didn't when I send > one. Could you post what returns when pressing `C-u C-x =' on an > accentuated characters in the message buffer? > Test: . character: . (0344, 228, 0xe4) charset: eight-bit-graphic (8-bit graphic char (0xA0..0xFF)) code point: 228 syntax: word category: buffer code: 0xE4 file code: 0xE4 (encoded by coding system emacs-mule-unix) font: -B&H-LucidaTypewriter-Medium-R-Normal-Sans-12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1 I probably won't be able to send this message, expect to see dots instead of the accentuated a. :-) -- Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> it's a miracle! -- http://www.orebokech.com/
ShengHuo ZHU writes: > It is to prevent users to send eight bit control characters. It should > not complain accentuated characters, at least, it didn't when I send > one. Could you post what returns when pressing `C-u C-x =' on an > accentuated characters in the message buffer? > Test: . character: . (0344, 228, 0xe4) charset: eight-bit-graphic (8-bit graphic char (0xA0..0xFF)) code point: 228 syntax: word category: buffer code: 0xE4 file code: 0xE4 (encoded by coding system emacs-mule-unix) font: -B&H-LucidaTypewriter-Medium-R-Normal-Sans-12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1 I probably won't be able to send this message, expect to see dots instead of the accentuated a. :-) -- Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> it's a miracle! -- http://www.orebokech.com/
Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> writes:
> ShengHuo ZHU writes:
>
>> It is to prevent users to send eight bit control characters. It should
>> not complain accentuated characters, at least, it didn't when I send
>> one. Could you post what returns when pressing `C-u C-x =' on an
>> accentuated characters in the message buffer?
>
>> Test: .
>
> character: . (0344, 228, 0xe4)
> charset: eight-bit-graphic (8-bit graphic char (0xA0..0xFF))
> code point: 228
> syntax: word
> category:
> buffer code: 0xE4
> file code: 0xE4 (encoded by coding system emacs-mule-unix)
> font: -B&H-LucidaTypewriter-Medium-R-Normal-Sans-12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1
>
> I probably won't be able to send this message, expect to see dots
> instead of the accentuated a. :-)
I got this.
character: ä (04344, 2276, 0x8e4)
charset: latin-iso8859-1
(Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 1 (ISO/IEC 8859-1): ISO-IR-100.)
code point: 100
syntax: word
category: l:Latin
buffer code: 0x81 0xE4
file code: 0x81 0xE4 (encoded by coding system emacs-mule)
Unicode: 00E4
font: -Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--14-100-100-100-M-90-ISO8859-1
It seems you turn off multibyte. What is (mm-multibyte-p) in the
message buffer?
ShengHuo
Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> writes:
> ShengHuo ZHU writes:
>
>> It is to prevent users to send eight bit control characters. It should
>> not complain accentuated characters, at least, it didn't when I send
>> one. Could you post what returns when pressing `C-u C-x =' on an
>> accentuated characters in the message buffer?
>
>> Test: .
>
> character: . (0344, 228, 0xe4)
> charset: eight-bit-graphic (8-bit graphic char (0xA0..0xFF))
> code point: 228
> syntax: word
> category:
> buffer code: 0xE4
> file code: 0xE4 (encoded by coding system emacs-mule-unix)
> font: -B&H-LucidaTypewriter-Medium-R-Normal-Sans-12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1
>
> I probably won't be able to send this message, expect to see dots
> instead of the accentuated a. :-)
I got this.
character: ä (04344, 2276, 0x8e4)
charset: latin-iso8859-1
(Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 1 (ISO/IEC 8859-1): ISO-IR-100.)
code point: 100
syntax: word
category: l:Latin
buffer code: 0x81 0xE4
file code: 0x81 0xE4 (encoded by coding system emacs-mule)
Unicode: 00E4
font: -Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--14-100-100-100-M-90-ISO8859-1
It seems you turn off multibyte. What is (mm-multibyte-p) in the
message buffer?
ShengHuo
ShengHuo ZHU writes: > It seems you turn off multibyte. What is (mm-multibyte-p) in the > message buffer? It was nil, and looking at my configuration, I found that I had a (standard-display-european t) which is now marked as obsolete. I replaced it with (set-language-environment 'Latin-1) and Gnus doesn't complain anymore, but now, my mails are sent as QP, and not 8bit. How do I get 8bit back? Thanks for the help, ShengHuo! -- Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> it's a miracle! -- http://www.orebokech.com/
ShengHuo ZHU writes: > It seems you turn off multibyte. What is (mm-multibyte-p) in the > message buffer? It was nil, and looking at my configuration, I found that I had a (standard-display-european t) which is now marked as obsolete. I replaced it with (set-language-environment 'Latin-1) and Gnus doesn't complain anymore, but now, my mails are sent as QP, and not 8bit. How do I get 8bit back? Thanks for the help, ShengHuo! -- Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> it's a miracle! -- http://www.orebokech.com/
Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> writes:
> ShengHuo ZHU writes:
>
>> It seems you turn off multibyte. What is (mm-multibyte-p) in the
>> message buffer?
>
> It was nil, and looking at my configuration, I found that I had a
>
> (standard-display-european t)
>
> which is now marked as obsolete. I replaced it with
>
> (set-language-environment 'Latin-1)
>
> and Gnus doesn't complain anymore, but now, my mails are sent as QP, and
> not 8bit. How do I get 8bit back?
You can customize gnus-group-posting-charset-alist or
mm-body-charset-encoding-alist.
ShengHuo
Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> writes:
> ShengHuo ZHU writes:
>
>> It seems you turn off multibyte. What is (mm-multibyte-p) in the
>> message buffer?
>
> It was nil, and looking at my configuration, I found that I had a
>
> (standard-display-european t)
>
> which is now marked as obsolete. I replaced it with
>
> (set-language-environment 'Latin-1)
>
> and Gnus doesn't complain anymore, but now, my mails are sent as QP, and
> not 8bit. How do I get 8bit back?
You can customize gnus-group-posting-charset-alist or
mm-body-charset-encoding-alist.
ShengHuo
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 02 Mar 2002, ShengHuo ZHU wrote, without the least grovelling: > Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> writes: > >> ShengHuo ZHU writes: >> >>> It seems you turn off multibyte. What is (mm-multibyte-p) in the >>> message buffer? >> >> It was nil, and looking at my configuration, I found that I had a >> >> (standard-display-european t) >> >> which is now marked as obsolete. I replaced it with >> >> (set-language-environment 'Latin-1) >> >> and Gnus doesn't complain anymore, but now, my mails are sent as QP, >> and not 8bit. How do I get 8bit back? > > You can customize gnus-group-posting-charset-alist or > mm-body-charset-encoding-alist. > Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol Sean - - -- ,,, (o o) - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net Offering feeds for Fidonet, Adventurenet, and many other nets See http://www.tcob1.net for more details ICQ: 679813 Linux User: 231986 TCOB1 BBS: 095 43852 Yahoo: tcob_1 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GPG for Secure Mail iEYEARECAAYFAjyBe7EACgkQeR/L2ZZp3E+6fgCgivALI9iVrYQg5GMT/EThnNOH mv4An2UkpNReZYgEQUAnOPaz7AfjQ9Vk =aMvZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 02 Mar 2002, ShengHuo ZHU wrote, without the least grovelling: > Romain FRANCOISE <romain@orebokech.com> writes: > >> ShengHuo ZHU writes: >> >>> It seems you turn off multibyte. What is (mm-multibyte-p) in the >>> message buffer? >> >> It was nil, and looking at my configuration, I found that I had a >> >> (standard-display-european t) >> >> which is now marked as obsolete. I replaced it with >> >> (set-language-environment 'Latin-1) >> >> and Gnus doesn't complain anymore, but now, my mails are sent as QP, >> and not 8bit. How do I get 8bit back? > > You can customize gnus-group-posting-charset-alist or > mm-body-charset-encoding-alist. > Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol Sean - - -- ,,, (o o) - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net Offering feeds for Fidonet, Adventurenet, and many other nets See http://www.tcob1.net for more details ICQ: 679813 Linux User: 231986 TCOB1 BBS: 095 43852 Yahoo: tcob_1 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GPG for Secure Mail iEYEARECAAYFAjyBe7EACgkQeR/L2ZZp3E+6fgCgivALI9iVrYQg5GMT/EThnNOH mv4An2UkpNReZYgEQUAnOPaz7AfjQ9Vk =aMvZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
> Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol
What is your problem with the Euro symbol?
kai
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Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
> Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol
What is your problem with the Euro symbol?
kai
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Oracle:
> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
>
>> Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol
>
> What is your problem with the Euro symbol?
>
When I try to send an email or news article containing the Euro synbol,
gnus comes back with an Illegible characters and allowes to redit,
replaced with dots etc but won't let me post it. I have added:
; use iso-8859-15 charset by default, to let Gnus recognize the
; euro symbol
(defconst gnus-default-posting-charset 'iso-8859-15)
(defconst mm-body-charset-encoding-alist '((iso-8859-15 . 8bit)))
(defconst message-default-charset 'iso-8859-15)
To my .gnus.el and rebyte compiled it but still the same.
Sean
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On Sun, 03 Mar 2002, Kai thusly discussed the words of the Internet
Oracle:
> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
>
>> Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol
>
> What is your problem with the Euro symbol?
>
When I try to send an email or news article containing the Euro synbol,
gnus comes back with an Illegible characters and allowes to redit,
replaced with dots etc but won't let me post it. I have added:
; use iso-8859-15 charset by default, to let Gnus recognize the
; euro symbol
(defconst gnus-default-posting-charset 'iso-8859-15)
(defconst mm-body-charset-encoding-alist '((iso-8859-15 . 8bit)))
(defconst message-default-charset 'iso-8859-15)
To my .gnus.el and rebyte compiled it but still the same.
Sean
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Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
> On Sun, 03 Mar 2002, Kai thusly discussed the words of the Internet
> Oracle:
>
>> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
>>
>>> Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol
>>
>> What is your problem with the Euro symbol?
>
> When I try to send an email or news article containing the Euro synbol,
> gnus comes back with an Illegible characters and allowes to redit,
> replaced with dots etc but won't let me post it.
Ah, this indeed appears to be the same problem as the previous poster
had. So please try ShengHuo's suggestion.
kai
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Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
> On Sun, 03 Mar 2002, Kai thusly discussed the words of the Internet
> Oracle:
>
>> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
>>
>>> Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol
>>
>> What is your problem with the Euro symbol?
>
> When I try to send an email or news article containing the Euro synbol,
> gnus comes back with an Illegible characters and allowes to redit,
> replaced with dots etc but won't let me post it.
Ah, this indeed appears to be the same problem as the previous poster
had. So please try ShengHuo's suggestion.
kai
--
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Paul Kelly can witness that Kai on Sun, 03 Mar 2002 wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Mar 2002, Kai thusly discussed the words of the Internet
>> Oracle:
>>
>>> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol
>>>
>>> What is your problem with the Euro symbol?
>>
>> When I try to send an email or news article containing the Euro
>> synbol, gnus comes back with an Illegible characters and allowes to
>> redit, replaced with dots etc but won't let me post it.
>
> Ah, this indeed appears to be the same problem as the previous poster
> had. So please try ShengHuo's suggestion.
>
I sort of sorted it. It turned out that whilst I had compiled the
section that I showed into the .gnus.el file, I had tried it unde the
same emacs session. This monring I went to send an email that required
the Euro symbol and no warning, although I have a feeling it may have
gone out as quote-printable
Sean
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Paul Kelly can witness that Kai on Sun, 03 Mar 2002 wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Mar 2002, Kai thusly discussed the words of the Internet
>> Oracle:
>>
>>> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Do you have to do the same to be able to use the Euro symbol
>>>
>>> What is your problem with the Euro symbol?
>>
>> When I try to send an email or news article containing the Euro
>> synbol, gnus comes back with an Illegible characters and allowes to
>> redit, replaced with dots etc but won't let me post it.
>
> Ah, this indeed appears to be the same problem as the previous poster
> had. So please try ShengHuo's suggestion.
>
I sort of sorted it. It turned out that whilst I had compiled the
section that I showed into the .gnus.el file, I had tried it unde the
same emacs session. This monring I went to send an email that required
the Euro symbol and no warning, although I have a feeling it may have
gone out as quote-printable
Sean
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