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[2001:8b0:1142:9042::2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ci4sm4647074wjc.21.2014.03.13.03.57.13 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Mar 2014 03:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:57:11 +0000 From: Adam Thompson To: Karl Dahlke Message-ID: <20140313105711.GJ13789@toaster.adamthompson.me.uk> References: <20140212100337.eklhad@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GU3/x65mZ6MFE8p3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140212100337.eklhad@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: Edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com Subject: Re: [Edbrowse-dev] wiki X-BeenThere: edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Edbrowse Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:58:39 -0000 --GU3/x65mZ6MFE8p3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:03:37AM -0400, Karl Dahlke wrote: > I submitted my edbrowse article to wikipedia, > with my wife's help getting past the captcha. That's good to hear. > I then pulled it down to view, and there at the top was a big note saying > "This article has been marked for speedy deletion by our automatic filter." > Really? > I clicked a few links, fortunately wiki is a very edbrowse-friendly site, > and found out why. > In 2010 someone posted an article about edbrowse. > I had no knowledge of this. I have to say, it's the first I've heard of any previous article as well. > The assumption, by their software, > is that the conditions are as they were in 2010, > and I'm just reposting it to be stubborn, > and so it is marked for speedy deletion by the administrators. That's understandable. > I found the place where I could make a comment and request that it > not be deleted, speedily or otherwise. > I pointed out that during those 4 years it had gone beyond a personal project > and was now part of many distributions, including the references > that would validate my claim. > Soon thereafter the notice of deletion disappeared, leaving only the article, > looking just like the one I last posted on this list, > that we all agreed to. > In other words, I think we were successful. > It is there. Good work. Thanks for doing this. > Course it could be deleted next week for some other reason, > but for now it is there. Yeah, or edited beyond recognition, but that's the nature of a wiki. > 1. Should I reference it in my users guide? Yes. > 2. Should I include some of its paragraphs in my users guide? > It is perhaps a better introduction than anything I have in usersguide.html. Hmmm, I'd assume that anyone whos got as far as the user's guide probably only needs a brief intro to edbrowse, so probably not. > 3. Should I include the raw markup of the article in the doc directory? > That would show people how to write wiki articles, if they wish, > but it also runs the risk of becoming out of date > as anyone on the planet can edit and change my edbrowse article on wikipedia. It would almost certainly become out of date, so I wouldn't. > 4. At the end of the users guide, talking about various command line utilities, > should I add a section about my experience posting the article, > and how to interact with wikipedia, and it's markup language etc? > Or is that such a rare thing to do that it's not worth talking about. I suspect it's probably not worth it, as they may also change the submission process, markup etc. May be worth a post to the command-line list though. 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