On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 07:52:52AM -0400, Karl Dahlke wrote:
> if(t = strchr(line, '@')) {
> 
> I have to admit I am a bit hesitant about adding in the extra parentheses
> 
> if((t = strchr(line, '@'))) {
> 
> and not because of any screen reader.
> Rather the parentheses add almost no new information.
> They don't make clear the order of operations.
> There is no parsing ambiguity.
> The line can only run as it runs.
> Unlike some of the lines with many operators,
> especially the shift and booleans, where the C precedence is really
> quite counterintuitive.
> Or the ?: with other stuff going on.
> I can see adding parentheses to those for clarity.
> But to me lines like this seem perfectly clear.

I agree, but if we want to get rid of warnings then we may as well.

> And 2 extra chars, or perhaps 4 after you run indent,
> well, if the line is inside some blocks,
> 4 more chars could push you over 80 and then the damn indenter cuts the line in two,
> and then you're reading the logical line of code across two physical lines.
> Now that is annoying.

Yep.

> Oh I know, at this point you tell me I have too many
> nested blocks, and yeah you might be right,
> but it is what it is.

I'd rather have lots of nesting than lots of functions created for the single
purpose of removing nested blocks.

> There are a couple of places where it's almost criminal what indent does.
> 
> if(z ==
> 23 ||
> y ==
> 37 ||
> q == 1 &&
> 
> etc all tabbed over to the right.
> Makes me wish I'd stayed with my original 4 space indent instead of the linux kernel
> standard 8 space indent.
> Or maybe it's what I deserve for nesting 5 blocks.

I've always prefered a 4 space indent (well actually I've only started
indenting since I had to start doing Python 3 years ago and even now sometimes I
forget), but at least 4 spaces is enough for me to notice the difference in
indentation and not so much that 5 blocks has eaten half my braille display,
not to mention trying to count 40 spaces with a screen reader or what happens
when I use a 40 cell braille display.
At any rate it's better than a 3 (yep that realy is 3 and not a typo)
spaces as used at the last place I worked.
That basically came as the worst of both worlds between those who wanted 2 and
those who wanted 4 space indentation, and was decided way before my time there.
Getting indent to do that was... fun.
I think I (and those who reviewed my code)
ended up accepting some seriously mangled indentation in the end.

> Anyways I'm a little off topic.
> I'll probably hang on to this patch and not push it now,
> unless everyone else unanimously thinks I should.

I'd say push it on the basis that we're looking for a clean compile and
it'll probably save having this discussion in a few months time.

Cheers,
Adam.