From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:34]) by hurricane.the-brannons.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4E067AF06 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 04:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.102]) by resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id HPaM1q0032D5gil01PabUA; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:34:35 +0000 Received: from eklhad ([IPv6:2601:4:5380:4ee:21e:4fff:fec2:a0f1]) by resomta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id HPab1q0075LMg2101PabmT; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:34:35 +0000 To: Edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com From: Karl Dahlke Reply-to: Karl Dahlke References: <20150316174053.eklhad@comcast.net> <20150418104919.GI5949@toaster.adamthompson.me.uk> User-Agent: edbrowse/3.5.3+ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 07:34:35 -0400 Message-ID: <20150318073435.eklhad@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1429356875; bh=QPUkBYdSZthLQJ/+ta/lmZYug4srFltHBreaY5tq9qA=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Reply-to:Subject:Date:Message-ID: Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=CL5ucMfSHVSbVBbLo5yEmnzxU1QtdT02XWj0WN46DO8xpPVGpf9buP/OVd6nYsvl9 ua4Hy607KY4gwQeUjkSMfrEIdWJiJjAPwKrN0cZ6hr1Z+rT9VXT1o/MJLCClWflbkI k39YYcbq8IphNTmUx1dFn7rCZNFH7sZpjAyLL/NdDA00KAyLLfx4iLGFYohzIBF4a4 WIAhaNvO1Rs15SqHzQqD4TMEea9EPg+2Rrx3MQg+tGAjRbLe1RySynodiKcg3O00Iy ckb9iZI/Hv6yeTZkToZ4I+bRdp128C61sLx/85DCjMxbWtzpBNEyTMVArhMEqqZQpL 9q0FhczG6sIwg== Subject: [Edbrowse-dev] wordexp again X-BeenThere: edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Edbrowse Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:35:41 -0000 > What the last couple of days have shown is that making undiscussed changes is > just going to get circular due to differing user requirements and opinions. Yes and we all did that, when initially my intent was just to fix a bug. But instead we changed the user interface, things expanded when they didn't before, and conversely, changing the meaning of ` etc, and some of the edbrowse users, who are not on this list contacted me and were confused. So now it works all as it did before, except the bug is fixed, and the code is much cleaner inside. Of course there's nothing wrong with cleaning up code, but we do have to talk more and plan more before changing the user interface. I had the same problem with some of the plugin work, which we all agreed was great, and even the users agreed was great, so no trouble there, they are really quite enthusiastic about it, but we rather innocently said, Hey let's change mime { to plugin { in .ebrc Sure that makes sense, but some of my users out there had edbrowse fail on startup for reasons they didn't understand. And even if they waited til the next release, it would have been the same problem. No backward compatibility. So at their suggestion I allow either syntax now mime { or plugin { and edbrowse runs again with the previous .ebrc I have to temper what I do, and what we do, with some feedback that I get from others that is, unfortunately, not always on this list. It is, I suppose, my job to relay some of this information to this list, so we can all talk about it. Sorry if I missed some of these steps. Karl Dahlke