From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by hurricane.the-brannons.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AEA879260 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 05:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB4720CCB for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:46:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ftml.net; h= content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to :x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=u6YwPXp6jv5DpH7qdKZlQ8TKPY4 =; b=Rc9IRalT8W64IePMjWVSaLxWp/10ki+biMOBYLC8Qsf5d0XyEFHP7RUnJC6 mgW3PzS1y0pe8XiCPkVmDRLUfKlY7qzYw6/YO8a2tfHbAZRRwuAi62tEpZf040ut WBUISx2BjDA262U0CCasNALrVbUS1e3173jShMJvBSjPd9zU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=u6 YwPXp6jv5DpH7qdKZlQ8TKPY4=; b=iEYYqqKc0jV88pV/mWkZ91mkdamieZ9HLR MT4ubIaU8ZIgsBMGz4Ag5oqb8dvjfa4h+64OkgiWLWTvglXUB8fnX5rFFpEd/cM3 +z9U9crvpJ2udmG3tubsleQOZLAGWjRkjwi01wK9qanB0MYQuDIovjAfBCFoc0H+ MiwQp/qSM= X-Sasl-enc: 7LBU6uuvrNGihtNhcPGi/g2B+vg+rnuNJbk+8Y1DGbuP 1450359969 Received: from localhost (99-13-41-4.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net [99.13.41.4]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EE6F76800F6 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:46:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:46:08 -0500 From: Chuck Hallenbeck To: Edbrowse Development Message-ID: <20151217134608.GA4216@acer.attlocal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: [Edbrowse-dev] Non-technical rant X-BeenThere: edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Edbrowse Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:46:06 -0000 Hi all, I would also add my congratulations, and express my gratitude, to the edbrowse development team. I have been an edbrowse, archlinux, and command line addict for many years, and have welcomed each advance in functionality. But I have become discouraged recently because the moving target we are pursuing seems to be pulling away from us. Last summer I decided to abandon the linux world and emigrate to an imac system, where there seemed to be a growing community of happy blind users. It was not a decision made lightly, and it was one I now regret. But having resurrected my former favorites I now find, in addition to the improvements of recent months, an increase in the accessibility problem areas as well. For example, Amazon now works extremely well, but I can no longer access the third party email service I have used for the past fifteen years, due to a change in their user interface. I can continue to use it as is, but if it needs a configuration tweak, or a subscription renewal, I will need sighted assistance. My experiment with the proprietary world was an expensive one, and I think I would rather continue to rely on edbrowse, linux, and the command line, rather than deal with the PITA presented by the iMac and its GUI prison. Sorry for the rant. I'll do what I can to help out here. Let's not worry about this year's Christmas shopping. There's always next year. Chuck