Ok, maybe time on directories makes sense. It doesn't on special files, but pretty rare for special files to be in your directories anyways, so I guess I won't worry about it. Yes access time would be nice, but the ls commands don't know about that either. I'd need a new lsa or something. And also the corresponding sort. But unless people want it, and would use it, I'm not gonna bother with it. I wouldn't use it. Karl Dahlke