From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:44; helo=resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net; envelope-from=eklhad@comcast.net; receiver= Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:44]) by hurricane.the-brannons.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 669E277AAF for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2018 17:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from resomta-ch2-17v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.113]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id jEjxeS1iMVJDNjEjxe5dBK; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 01:41:37 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1517967697; bh=CfHgcqNX75XnDKRYYyVmwo4jB+x/BqJwObBziBu8RJA=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Reply-to:Subject:Date:Message-ID: Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=W3W6g1YUrXdQWTyJdagVyHGhtdvO0OGU5KBCY6qitD7s0V9KV10+8wRGLWg6UUzkv JKwSamiCop2H9Kq3Nhtca9XsuyQ2rFQnftSrciRah8dSqbadHsykyASmLhcOC0C+Uw Yx7X3oTqOfNw4lv47DSxGZzm7bPKOGU43TjRhhYzCayNs0FaDO06HM07C6D365PztN Sko01Z9jCDIdYdzGeduNcx9cC2zTZJq75a1uAbpvbXTkWMhKRMAQHI/8vQ17gi7A6F JuFlZt1dWLDM7lg2ifhLEZ4ij0cmx3fQMRR8eNoRCDfcnDSETIQw/vpFRa6blDVUWP arKLtrpNHalSw== Received: from unknown ([IPv6:2601:408:c300:8f09:21e:4fff:fec2:a0f1]) by resomta-ch2-17v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id jEjveLgKKI2wAjEjwedC97; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 01:41:37 +0000 To: Edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com From: Karl Dahlke Reply-to: Karl Dahlke References: <20180106130623.eklhad@comcast.net> User-Agent: edbrowse/3.7.1 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:41:35 -0500 Message-ID: <20180106204135.eklhad@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=nextpart-eb-603950 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDzl/ZMibhS0RceUCzYojaalJIW9tx+A98TbUDhAetDyLFqXQ+vSGz/D3uK7GUBZrE9pgRnXBnf1OPgtIHPrpCS3rOHd/PD47IVPwNJy97YXLqehHLBE NTxqsrhGl2M2Vh9PQexq6yId/VXQy3DqxT1WXW/lX6AyRQzx9/EnlAWk Subject: [Edbrowse-dev] either way X-BeenThere: edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Edbrowse Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 01:41:03 -0000 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --nextpart-eb-603950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > wow, is it possible that things would > actually work better if we removed attachEvent from startwindow = entirely? I put this back on the list because we should all think about it and = discuss it. I first thought about it 2 or 3 years ago: we should emulate one browser, pick one, say Firefox, since we were = using mozilla at the time, and our objects and js etc should behave as much like firefox as = possible, and since every web site is tuned to support firefox, edbrowse will run. I even thought about making firefox the default user agent, basically = lie to the internet, and you can switch over to edbrowse if you dare. But I didn't go that way because I don't know enough about firefox, or = any browser for that matter, to truly emulate it. Instead we pretty much implemented whatever we thought we had to at the = time, including imperfect implementations of parallel systems that do = essentially the same thing. Yes nasa runs exactly the same way if I globally substitute attachEvent = with zattachEvent, thus taking it away. It comes up empty however if I remove the addEventListener system. I think the industry is gradually moving towards addEventListener, = wherein attachEvent could be depricated. It's not a crazy idea, it's a really good idea, pick a browser and aim = to emulate that as closely as possible, I'm just not sure how to do = that. In the short run, should we just comment out the atachEvent system? I don't know. Or maybe turn it on or off with a variable, and by default that = variable is off. I guess I'd be ok with that. We'll run into other situations I'm sure where we're trying to be too = many things to too many people. Karl Dahlke --nextpart-eb-603950--